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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    LOL, I love how people here think they are moderators. It's also quite amusing how people who want the "argument" (which was actually about a component of "the healer job") to be done feel the need to bring it up again.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 08-14-2015 at 03:50 AM. Reason: Spelling error

  2. #82
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    So me saying I'd rather not see an argument makes me a moderator...? Ok then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    If that kind of discussion bothers you so, refrain from butting in and allow it to die a natural death.

    Attempting to moderate your fellow posters almost invariably leaves you coming off as more out-of-line than anyone you are criticizing.
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  4. #84
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    I'll do so next time, thank you
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    All I'd like to see is lightspeed be on a shorter cooldown. If it was, and also made cures be off the gcd, that could be the ast's emergency heal cool down. Adjust the MP reduction based on how much shorter the cool down is.

    And for celestial opposition to buff the potency of cards and aspected shields in nocturnal sect.
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    Last edited by Shyluv; 08-14-2015 at 05:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    It's been done for 2.5 hours.
    Most of the times people bring the discussion back after some minutes/hours, that's why i was asking for an end.
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-14-2015 at 09:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    GUYS! Who cares anyways? Can you both please end this useless argument?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xalvador View Post
    Next time argue like that in private. These forums are for discussing the topic at hand and the healer jobs, not for senseless arguments.
    I don't understand these posts.

    First, the argument was done long before anyone came in. In fact NorthernLadMSP said they were done and I purposefully made my last post was literal as to not bait a response.

    Second, most of the argument was on topic. There were a couple posts that were unnecessary, but the bulk of them I was trying to explain how fey wind, arrow, and balance have the same effect on a group. My large dps explanation was also serious, as at that point I thought that maybe they thought "dps" was interchangeable with how much damage a single action does, which is something I've seen before. And, believe it or not, this argument may have explained that latter point to people who were actually unaware of that.

    So yeah, I wont drag out this specific argument any longer than this post, but I think both of these posts ended up being more useless than about 80% of our argument...
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  8. #88
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    These forums are much more entertaining and perhaps even more productive when you walk in with the expectation that everyone will be big ol' diva and be prone to arguing about arguing itself.

    By this point, even if another poster is catty towards me for no discernible reason, I'll usually have moved past it by the next thread. A little fur flies because we all feel strongly that we are correct, then we keep talking shop. No biggie.

    The flood of AST-centric threads and the ongoing arguments have definitely upped the overall bitch factor as of late, I will admit.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    You didn't need to act clever , count the hours, and make me look stupid. I was quite aware of the time.
    *eye roll*
    My comment was just a direct response. It was not written with the intention of acting clever or making you look stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    So yeah, I wont drag out this specific argument any longer than this post, but I think both of these posts ended up being more useless than about 80% of our argument...
    Without rehashing any of our interaction, I apologize to you for misunderstanding you. When I read a few of your posts, I took them as condescending - as if you were talking down to me. I was wrong.

    And I do agree with you that our discussion was most certainly relevant to the thread at hand.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    ...
    As i said, most of the times people bring back the discussion after some hours/minutes, i was aware of the time.
    The discussion started to fall away from topic since it started to talk about "how DPS works" instead of "why people hate AST, how to prevent that from happening, why AST is weaker, how to fix that,etc...".
    We were only looking for an end to your almost endless discussion that was starting to get agressive, how's that useless?
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