Eso Tome Cap

[Velhart]

The only downside I could see is the people that don't have the time to cap more then one. Sorry but that is selfish. Since this is a PvE issue there is no balance issue and it doesn't even effect you. Shrug, but I guess we all have to be special snowflakes. Amirite?

People usually think of the overall balance of the game, not just themselves like the people requesting more items per week. The use of the word selfish is being used ironically here.

[Bovinity]

It's an MMORPG. Maybe you're playing the wrong genre of
game.

It being an MMO has nothing to do with using words like "outplayed" in reference to farming. You're not "outplaying" anyone by spending twice the time as someone else farming crystals or something.

Out-farming them, perhaps.

Why not just level an alt if you wanted to get more esotarics for a different class per week?

It feels strange in a game with this job system to encourage people to roll alts simply because of currency/drop design.

Kinda brings us right back to the job system feeling like a bit of a gimmick just to get you to level more classes that you don't even intend to play, just because you need cross-class skills.

[KoJenova]

People usually think of the overall balance of the game, not just themselves like the people requesting more items per week. The use of the word selfish is being used ironically here.

How does it even effect the overall balance though? You can't gear one specific job any faster. If it's the accessory issue, come on really? The only balance issue is what exactly? People will down content at the same rate but have the option to switch it up. The only people it could possibly help is world first attempts. And really who cares? Why is it a bad thing to allow this? I personally average 2-3 hours a night. This is after work, kids soccer etc, dinner, wife time.

6 days a week of 30 minutes a day and your capped. Yes there's a lot more to do. But why block people that like to gear up other jobs with the current tomes. It does not speed up progression and if anything it will keep us so called no lifers busy and happy while populating the dungeons more instead of logging off and/or unsuscribing due to being bored. It does not hurt a single person and or SE bottom line. Hurt feelings is the only possible negative to this..... But really? If I missed something that could drastically alter game balance please forgive me as I don't see it.

[RiceisNice]

How does it even effect the overall balance though? You can't gear one specific job any faster. If it's the accessory issue, come on really? The only balance issue is what exactly? People will down content at the same rate but have the option to switch it up. The only people it could possibly help is world first attempts. And really who cares? Why is it a bad thing to allow this? I personally average 2-3 hours a night. This is after work, kids soccer etc, dinner, wife time.

6 days a week of 30 minutes a day and your capped. Yes there's a lot more to do. But why block people that like to gear up other jobs with the current tomes.

You severely underestimate how much ahead a class can get if tomes were capped class-by-class, but accessories and belts were still uni-class

[KoJenova]

You severely underestimate how much ahead a class can get if tomes were capped class-by-class, but accessories and belts were still uni-class

Now I understand this argument I suppose but in all reality what does it do to the balance of the game exactly. The top raiding guilds can down the hardest content a week earlier? Other then that, who cares! Do you care so much that Bobbie Jo is capped on 5 jobs where you were only able to do 1? Serious question. How in any way does this effect you negatively? It's PvE tomes...... Not PvP..... I don't understand why anyone would have this bother them unless it's a jealousy thing. OMG Bethany capped all her jobs when I could only do two.... Wow.

[Velhart]

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Do you think they are going to make AF sets every time? No, you have to take sets for multiple jobs into consideration. I gear a PLD for the week. I buy items with it. I get on WAR next and get more gear in the same category. I then switch to DRK and get gear from that. I can get three weeks worth of gear in one for one job.

To make things work, you would have to drastically alter how the Armory System and it's token system works. Its something that if done slightly wrong can create extreme disadvantages depending on the job you play.

That is just one thing out of many to take into consideration. People only look at the general idea of it and think it is great with no flaws without actually researching and thinking of what the negatives are when this happens. It isn't simply because people get ahead of the game.

[RiceisNice]

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Because that's uneven/unfair by design. It's one thing to leave unbalance due to an oversight on design, it's another to purposely allow it. Why am I going to sit and play a game that would literally disregard my class in progressive balance? It's the same reason why DRGs were so shat on during 2.4, and MCH/BRD given such a hard time on the first few weeks of the game. You might not think it's a big deal, but you're not looking at the perspective of the game as a whole, and especially from a developmental standpoint. Casters, Ranged, healers and tanks could be full out decked on accessories and belt pieces. If it weren't for the fact we're talking about esotarics, a tank, healer, caster and ranged could effectively gear up in full left-side pieces too.

And again, this is assuming that every set from this point on would be job specific. It's more development time, more data (because this is apparently such a big issue and why we can't have more inventory space or housing), and more suffering on our inventory if we were to take this to the next level and make job-specific accessories.

[Obysuca]

Because that's uneven/unfair by design.

Life's not fair, deal with it.

I don't understand why anyone would have this bother them unless it's a jealousy thing. OMG Bethany capped all her jobs when I could only do two.... Wow.

^ This, so much. People these days seem to want the same stuff as others, for 1/10th the effort. If it really bothers someone that a person with more time has better gear, then they should do something about it or deal with it. I remember a time when mmos rewarded you for playing more (the point of a subscription mmo), rather than punishing you if you played more and rewarding people for playing less.

[RiceisNice]

Life's not fair, deal with it.

e_e You made the comparison to life, not me. The last thing you want to do in a game is to purposely design something to be unfair and piss off a group of your players. Is that really the best reason you can come up with to purposely design something to be unbalanced/unfair?

[Obysuca]

e_e You made the comparison to life, not me. The last thing you want to do in a game is to purposely design something to be unfair and piss off a group of your players. Is that really the best reason you can come up with to purposely design something to be unbalanced/unfair?

They're already pissing off a group of people with all the caps and limited content >_> You're just fine because it's not your group they're pissing off.

Having a tome cap for each job (and only spending for that job), is more fair than what we have now. With all the tome caps, people are punished for playing more. If there was a cap per job, then the people who play more wouldn't be punished as much and the people who play less shouldn't have a problem with it, since they only have time for 1 job anyways.