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    Player
    Anyendryyl's Avatar
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    Syon L'umosia
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60

    Astrologian Hate!?

    So, I really thought some of the hate would die down after an astro was in SOME of the WORLD first alex savage clears. But that did nothing sadly. I still get told quite often everywhere that AST is a "bad" class. That I shouldn't run Alex savage as an ast because I won't be able to keep up with the damage etc.

    Personally, my only complaint is the lack of reliable MP recovery. So having to hold any ewer cards I get can be a tad irritating. Aside from that, between time dilation, Collective unconscious, and Celestial opposition I think ast is a bit OP to be fair. Sure, I can't toss around 14k heals like a whm, but I can still heal none the less.

    The class is NOT bad. But it seems like a decent percentage of the players who play it are. For the ones who are geared at 60, and still "hate" astro.....do me a favour. GTFO my class. You give me a bad rep.

    Sorry for the rant >.<
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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Lastelli Sungsem
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Again, viable=/=good.

    AST is viable. Doesn't mean it's good. When compared with SCH and/or WHM, the class IS bad.

    Read this.
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    AlexanderThorolund's Avatar
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    Eros Crux
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    Louisoix
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Astrologian needs a spell called Black Hole that we can throw all the haters into.
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    Parawill's Avatar
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    Character
    Spark Joy
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Astrologian's aren't fine.
    Astrologian's aren't good.
    Astrologian's aren't bad.
    Astrologian's are satisfactory. They get the job done, but they lack the tools to stabilize mistakes.
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  5. #5
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    Anyendryyl's Avatar
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    Syon L'umosia
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    There have been may requests regarding Astrologian's card system.

    Y: I think the players' comments on the random factor are completely on point. However, the Astrologian's cards have the power to increase the party's strength as a whole. If they also had the same heal output as a White Mage or Scholar, then those two jobs would have nothing to offer to match the increase in party power. The two problems we are focusing on are the unreliability of the cards' RNG and Astrologian's lack of healing output compared to the other two jobs, however a single misstep could end up making the job overpowered, which is why this is taking so long. We apologize for making you all wait.



    ^^^^^^^This.
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  6. #6
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    Jenova
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Wow, very dramatic, childish post.

    AST is fun, yes. AST is viable, yes. AST needs some vast improvements to be on par with the other two healers.

    While everyone is completely entitled to their opinion on the job, the majority of the population agrees that it needs help. I see your AST is not very highly geared. I also see that you don't have WHM or SCH leveled to 60. So, you telling other people to "GTFO," is quite amusing.
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    Caly Umbra
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's bad but there's nothing wrong with enjoying it. It can get stuff done just not as well as the others. Nothing wrong with calling a job that needs quite a few changes bad.

    Also just because someone calls it bad doesn't mean someone hates it, people love the job and want it to receive positive changes.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 08-13-2015 at 05:24 AM.

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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Just a quick correction, there is no SOME world FIRST.
    It is direct contradiction of the meaning of the word first.

    Also, with mostly 170gear (and even a 160 pants) you aint going to find a savage group anyway.
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    Vid's Avatar
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    Character
    Iggi Wunohwun
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
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    Would agree whole heartily. I actually love the class and enjoyed it from 30 to 60, I still love the class. However it becomes painfully obvious when you hit AS1 just how much more stress you put on the other healer in the group. I am curious though on the changes they have in mind for the class, and what we will see in the upcoming patches. Sounds like our voices have been heard but the process of changing the job will take time.
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    It's not that I forget, it's just that I don't care.

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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Wow, very dramatic, childish post.

    AST is fun, yes. AST is viable, yes. AST needs some vast improvements to be on par with the other two healers.

    While everyone is completely entitled to their opinion on the job, the majority of the population agrees that it needs help. I see your AST is not very highly geared. I also see that you don't have WHM or SCH leveled to 60. So, you telling other people to "GTFO," is quite amusing.
    In full agreement with this.
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