Astrologian Hate!?

[Cynfael]

Wow, very dramatic, childish post.

AST is fun, yes. AST is viable, yes. AST needs some vast improvements to be on par with the other two healers.

While everyone is completely entitled to their opinion on the job, the majority of the population agrees that it needs help. I see your AST is not very highly geared. I also see that you don't have WHM or SCH leveled to 60. So, you telling other people to "GTFO," is quite amusing.

In full agreement with this.

[FoxyAreku]

It's the worst class in the game.

I am not a hater for saying this. I actually LOVE the class. It's just this borders on being a fact, even the game developers are acknowledging that it has problems and is lacking against the other healers. There is literally no reason to bring one over a white mage or scholar other than "I like to play this".

People get so bent out of shape and needlessly defensive when it comes to topics about class balance...geesh.

[Calypsx]

It's bad but there's nothing wrong with enjoying it. It can get stuff done just not as well as the others. Nothing wrong with calling a job that needs quite a few changes bad.

Also just because someone calls it bad doesn't mean someone hates it, people love the job and want it to receive positive changes.

[Assirra]

Just a quick correction, there is no SOME world FIRST.
It is direct contradiction of the meaning of the word first.

Also, with mostly 170gear (and even a 160 pants) you aint going to find a savage group anyway.

[Risvertasashi]

It really depends on how you look at AST.

If you look at AST through the lens of just being a healer, it's significantly behind the other two jobs. Not enough that it can't do content, but it's harder and less forgiving on AST. And Alex Savage really rather requires you look at healers as healers.

If you look at AST from angles like support/buffer/utility/etc, it's not so bad. But some content doesn't let you do that.

[GideonHighmourn]

I think ast is a bit OP to be fair

I urge you to play SCH and WHM to 60 and try to claim that again.

I wouldn't say AST is bad, but compared to WHM/SCH, it's definitely a struggle, especially in savage.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I urge you to play SCH and WHM to 60 and try to claim that again.

I wouldn't say AST is bad, but compared to WHM/SCH, it's definitely a struggle, especially in savage.

Agreed, there's LITERALLY no AST skill that is overpowered. They are all either decent (Benefic, Benefic II, Helios), or need a rework (Collective, Celestial, Aspected Helios).

[GideonHighmourn]

Agreed, there's LITERALLY no AST skill that is overpowered. They are all either decent (Benefic, Benefic II, Helios), or need a rework (Collective, Celestial, Aspected Helios).

Agreed.

There's a bigger problem, too, in that the "world first" clears are some of the most dedicated and skillful players in the game. They can overcome the shortcomings of AST because they play at the top of their game. Granted, the following crowds will have a higher iLvl, but I have a feeling AST will struggle more in groups of mid-core players. A SCH/WHM combo will offer a much larger safety net for error than AST/* will for the upcoming groups, which is why people will likely be encountering more "resistance" to AST in groups forming now.

I'm not saying AST isn't viable, just that SCH/WHM is going to offer a lot more to a group trying to progress; AST is viable, but groups will have to play at their peaks in order to relieve stress on the healers with AST/* in the group. I'm really hoping with 3.1 that AST becomes much more competitive as both a healer and a supporter.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Me as well. I love the job, I play it as often as I can. I've even been spending my Eso tomes on the AST gear. However, I'm getting tired of people that supposedly love the job literally fighting to keep it as is. I'm sorry, but if these people loved the job as much as they claim, they would be fighting FOR astrologian to be great, not fighting against it.

[Anyendryyl]

Me as well. I love the job, I play it as often as I can. I've even been spending my Eso tomes on the AST gear. However, I'm getting tired of people that supposedly love the job literally fighting to keep it as is. I'm sorry, but if these people loved the job as much as they claim, they would be fighting FOR astrologian to be great, not fighting against it.

LOL, I never once said I wanted to keep it as is. I'm all for uping it's power. But not in the form of "better heals" I actually have no clue how to fix it. Maybe make lumiferous last 30-45 seconds and increase it's CD. Let me move/place CU. Maybe add a LITTLE power to aspected helios. I don't know, but they can't give me the same heals as a whm/sch or else we'll replace them with the same heals+buffs.