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  1. #231
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    Arixtotle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahv View Post
    We want a chance to see what you saw, to experience what you experienced. There is absolutely no reason, other than 'they don't want to', that they can't implement a questline allowing this through flashbacks, the Echo, or any other number of reasons. I am, and I know so many others are, willing to jump through hoops and break our backs to unlock and survive it through to the end. It's won't 'lessen' your own experiences, but it will perhaps straighten out you attitude in regards to newer, non-legacy players.
    I really, really, really want this. For pure lore reasons. I don't care about items or tattoos. Though there is probably a reason it would be hard to do. If the assets even exist anymore, which they probably do because companies don't tend to delete anything, integrating them with the current system would be a chore. They might have to remake everything but I think it would be worth it. They could just release a bit at a time like they do currently with story quests. Would be neat for those of us who didn't get to play 1.0 for one reason or another.
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  2. #232
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    Fenwick Fuerlas
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    Call it selfish if you want and I could just as easily call what you want greed if we really want to start calling names and labeling people, but you should not be able to buy anything that you want. For whatever reason you were not a part of the game during the time period that these things were available, so you do not get things that were available exclusively during that time such as the marking, the gobbue, the dalamud horn, white ravens, etc.

    Some promotions are one time only, deal with it because it'll happen several times throughout life. The legacy marking is for players 'legacy' or otherwise who were present during the 1.0 version of FFXIV and unfortunately many of you were not. If you had been, great that would have been wonderful and I'd not think twice about you having it, but you weren't.

    A lot of people are being snide about people saying what others 'deserve' but the truth is the players didn't decide who was deserving. Square Enix did, because they were the ones who created the conditions behind getting the marking, and some of you do not meet their conditions.
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  3. #233
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    I don't care for the legacy trampstamp, nor do I understand its appeal. Its practically a tribal tattoo and those are never in good taste.
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  4. #234
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    Mahv Kelsin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Arguing about special snowflake status being threatened.
    Why not? Why can we not establish a flash-back sequence of dungeons and trials that allows those that missed out on the key points of the legacy story to experience it? It would then, logically, open up the avenue to justify a mark for those at the Battle of Carteneau, since you like to establish that it's such a lore-important facet of legacy characters. You keep reaffirming my opinion as to why this needs to be available to all players, not just the handful that happened to be around at a particular point in the game - thus making it little more than a seasonal event that has no way of repeating itself currently.

    I don't want to buy the tattoo, or the chocobo, or anything all of you seem to think you 'deserve'. I want a chance to earn them, plain and simple. I want SE to know that myself, and so many others, want a chance to earn what we missed out on for whatever reason.
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  5. #235
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedri View Post
    I guess you all want your name in the original credits too for $200? Money doesn't buy you everything. Leave legacy alone. You are not one of us.
    to be fair, no one asked for that. No one even asked for the legacy chocobo, which was part of the legacy campaign. They asked for the tattoo, which was NOT part of the campaign, technically. I get what you're saying, but jumping to extreme conclusions like that does nothing to get your point across, it only makes you look obnoxious, which I'm sure you're not intending to do, you're able to have a mature discussion, right? =) I'd like to think so.

    That said, I'm on the wall, I get that people with it feel special for having it and that's great and all, but I can understand other people's wish for it, because it IS really cool looking. I see it as kind of like the Lightning hairstyle/costumes. We were told "this won't happen again" and then it happened again. I expect it to come around again on the 2 year anniv, just like it did on the 1 year, we can't always have the special things 100% locked out, I doubt legacy players will quit over others being able to obtain a simple marking on their digital personas, I can understand outrage if people could buy the 9.99 service fee access, or the legacy chocobo/carpet goobue, but the mark? Really?
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  6. #236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    I really, really, really want this. For pure lore reasons. I don't care about items or tattoos. Though there is probably a reason it would be hard to do. If the assets even exist anymore, which they probably do because companies don't tend to delete anything, integrating them with the current system would be a chore. They might have to remake everything but I think it would be worth it. They could just release a bit at a time like they do currently with story quests. Would be neat for those of us who didn't get to play 1.0 for one reason or another.
    FFXI had a time-traveling bit to it; they could simply make one of FFXIV's later expansions have a similar event that retells the highlights of 1.0's story using some kind of time mechanic (bad guy tries to rewrite the past or some other such cliché). The old zones were far too massive to simply recreate with the new engine without having like, 9 zones each for the Black Shroud, Thanalan, and La Noscea, and far too bland looking to waste dev expenses on. Would be better off simply taking artistic license and reinterpret the old areas in the new engine (would love to see the Black Shroud have its namesake canopy again, the name is hardly appropriate now).

    The idea that all Legacy Members are elitists is just as ridiculous as the idea that anyone who doesn't have the tattoo could have played 1.0 if they wanted to, but didn't. This "schism" is simply between the elitists who happen to also play FFXIV, and the people who can't get over an unfortunate situation who happen to also play FFXIV. If it turns out that actually describes the entire FFXIV playerbase, then that would make me a special snowflake, in which case don't mind me I'll just go melt in the corner... [/rambling]
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  7. #237
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Gilgamesh
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    For those who want to play 1.XX I'm sure there's a private server out that allows it, I am just not sure about its quality but it's there for those who want it. Just google for it
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  8. #238
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    Ryel Altaria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahv View Post
    Why not? Why can we not establish a flash-back sequence of dungeons and trials that allows those that missed out on the key points of the legacy story to experience it? It would then, logically, open up the avenue to justify a mark for those at the Battle of Carteneau, since you like to establish that it's such a lore-important facet of legacy characters. You keep reaffirming my opinion as to why this needs to be available to all players, not just the handful that happened to be around at a particular point in the game - thus making it little more than a seasonal event that has no way of repeating itself currently.

    I don't want to buy the tattoo, or the chocobo, or anything all of you seem to think you 'deserve'. I want a chance to earn them, plain and simple. I want SE to know that myself, and so many others, want a chance to earn what we missed out on for whatever reason.
    Because it was specifically advertised as otherwise.

    You seem to want to play this up as some sort of special snowflake issue, but the simple fact is that it was advertised as a one time deal for a reason.

    SE is far from the first company or organization to do this and they'll be far from the last, in this case it's not a matter of being "special" or denying other players the opportunity but rather it has everything to do with Yoshida and SE keeping their promise of how the mark was obtained and what it would stand for, for the lifetime of the game.

    To me it sounds much more selfish and entitled to request them to take a step back because you personally felt you missed out by not being around when it was available as all the effort you want put into creating a series of flashback trials and dungeons to get something you weren't around for could be better spent on new content that both new and old players can enjoy benefits from.

    Once again I'm sorry you missed out and it's unfortunate, but a promise from the Producer/Director and the company at large has to mean something if we're to continue to trust their words in the future.
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    Last edited by Ryel; 08-12-2015 at 11:58 AM.

  9. #239
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
    Because it was specifically advertised as otherwise.

    ...a promise from the Producer/Director and the company at large has to mean something if we're to continue to trust their words in the future.
    OK, you want to talk about *promises*? Why was I forced to wait THREE WHOLE YEARS to play the game, when SE *PROMISED* that it would be out on the PS3? And don't give me any of that "well it wouldn't run on a toaster like that"... HORSE HOCKEY.

    There are *many* of us who *should* have been Legacy players, just like *you* all, but *our* promise was BROKEN.

    Where's OUR compensation, hmm?
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  10. #240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dree-Elle View Post
    OK, you want to talk about *promises*? Why was I forced to wait THREE WHOLE YEARS to play the game, when SE *PROMISED* that it would be out on the PS3? And don't give me any of that "well it wouldn't run on a toaster like that"... HORSE HOCKEY.

    There are *many* of us who *should* have been Legacy players, just like *you* all, but *our* promise was BROKEN.

    Where's OUR compensation, hmm?
    You got a 2.0 Ps3 release, arguably one of the most controversial decisions made concerning the game (limitations etc), And I believe it was even issued with a public apology as well.

    They could have chosen not to and just released it on Ps4/PC considering that the Ps3 was already at the end of it's life-cycle when 2.0 was released, However they specifically chose to release it on Ps3 because they promised it to ps3 players from the start.

    And yeah.. as much as you want to deny it Ps3 would have had major issues trying to run 1.0 as there were many medium to low end PC users (with PCs that were more powerful than the Ps3) who were unable to run it at the time.
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    Last edited by Ryel; 08-12-2015 at 12:17 PM.

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