How do you deal with sluggish tanks?

[Zophar]

Vote kicked for Harassment because they aren't moving at a pace you like? That's a bit extreme and a good way to get yourself reported. There's no harassment on there unless the tank is sitting there rubbing it in your face.

Still don't understand the lack of patience these days.

Admittedly I wasn't very clear. If one were to vote kick the tank without trying to at least reason with them, or give plausible cause, then yes, that would be a bad on me. However, if a request is made for the tank to try to speed up a little bit, just so we don't lose our buffs, and they reply, as many of the tanks in this thread have with "I'm the tank, I can pull however I want" That is a fair harassment call.

Also the impatience isn't about finishing the dungeon faster, it's about trying to keep these stupid buffs going. Try playing a couple of these dps in the 50-60 dungeons. You'll see how frustrating it can be.

[Tsilyi]

Also the impatience isn't about finishing the dungeon faster, it's about trying to keep these stupid buffs going. Try playing a couple of these dps in the 50-60 dungeons. You'll see how frustrating it can be.

as a fellow dps who has taken a few classes through the 50-60 grind, really just relax about keeping those buffs going. your average tank doesn't take 30 seconds between each pull so refresh your AT stack as the last mob is dying and you're fine. Honestly, people who are uptight about temporary buffs falling off between pulls just need to chill out. It's going to be a thing that happens, so just get used to it now. Those buffs will be back before you know it, and yes, that includes AT/dreadwyrm. Otherwise, run with your FC.

When you run with a DF tank, don't expect them to play at an elite level or even an above average level. People who respond the way you claim are likely players who have been harassed to no end on their pace (which probably isn't even THAT slow, realistically you'll save only a couple of minutes if they pulll a little faster, or less) and are therefore on edge about it. Use kind language if you really feel it's necessary and if they are upset, be apologetic. Some people simply do not get better and have a bad experience when they are forced to do things they didn't plan for or don't feel comfortable with. As long as they are tanking and keeping aggro, that should be good enough for a DF group... otherwise, run with your FC.

I personally don't mind speed runs no matter what I am playing, but I am never going to force a tank to do more than they feel capable of. You're just asking for a bad time regardless.

[Zophar]

I personally don't mind speed runs no matter what I am playing, but I am never going to force a tank to do more than they feel capable of. You're just asking for a bad time regardless.

You read what I said right? It has absolutely nothing to do with pulling big. If you're not comfortable pulling big, don't. I'm in agreement about that. What I'm saying is, keep a good brisk pace. This is asking, seriously, almost nothing. It is in fact, asking even less than asking the dps to not worry about their buffs.

[Ryaz]

Admittedly I wasn't very clear. If one were to vote kick the tank without trying to at least reason with them, or give plausible cause, then yes, that would be a bad on me. However, if a request is made for the tank to try to speed up a little bit, just so we don't lose our buffs, and they reply, as many of the tanks in this thread have with "I'm the tank, I can pull however I want" That is a fair harassment call.

Also the impatience isn't about finishing the dungeon faster, it's about trying to keep these stupid buffs going. Try playing a couple of these dps in the 50-60 dungeons. You'll see how frustrating it can be.

MCH is my main... I literally don't use my main damage on packs for the most part because I risk going into bosses unprepared and losing a lot of dps on wildfire. I know how it is, unfortunately. :/ Being so cooldown reliant for dps is terrible for trash pulls.

[spelley]

MCH is my main... I literally don't use my main damage on packs for the most part because I risk going into bosses unprepared and losing a lot of dps on wildfire. I know how it is, unfortunately. :/ Being so cooldown reliant for dps is terrible for trash pulls.

I always end up doing "lazy DPS" on the last pull (especially if it's small) just so I have everything up for last pull as well. The first pull or 2 (depending on dungeon) I'll throw out the mid-length oGCDs, and pop the 60s or less ones more or less freely, unless the last pack is small. Then it's lazy DPS all the way.