Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Ashkendor: You do know if Yoshi P learned something from FFXI he would have left the relic untouched everything else can be this upward progression but keep something for the legacy players from FFXI. Everything else is themeparked why cant we have just one damn thing to enjoy? Is that really too much to ask? We are aware you want everything to be easy to keep a player beeing active so you nerf everything so they can catch up on story primals etc but why cant you just leave the relic alone and just say look to get this relic you must know earn it no handouts. Its just one damn thing. It will make a big chunk of the community happy and not just me as an OP complaining.

[Daralii]

Ashkendor: You do know if Yoshi P learned something from FFXI he would have left the relic untouched everything else can be this upward progression but keep something for the legacy players from FFXI. Everything else is themeparked why cant we have just one damn thing to enjoy? Is that really too much to ask? We are aware you want everything to be easy to keep a player beeing active so you nerf everything so they can catch up on story primals etc but why cant you just leave the relic alone and just say look to get this relic you must know earn it no handouts. Its just one damn thing. It will make a big chunk of the community happy and not just me as an OP complaining.

Why would he care about legacy players from 11?

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Moonleg: I can only speak for FFXI since I came from FFXI to this. I know how rewarding gears where I don't agree with alot of the things there but alot of gears and levels felt rewarding. I'm saying is some things can just be left alone. Since everything else is going a nerfed path why cant you let one thing be and let that be enjoyable for thoese who want a timesink and a gilgrind? It really not much to ask its a relic weapon.
Kiara1: Thats the thing since they choose the path to nerfing everything from left to right and giving handouts why couldnt they just leave this thing alone?
Keadrian: I'm not sure what your problem is with me? If I bother you so much why don't you just ignore me? Its kinda rude that you continously target me personally instead of contributing with arguements.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Daralii: Cause FFXI was SEs MMORPG flagship maybe? It started from there and they are using influences and copying elements from almost every MMORPG but FFXI and the relic felt FFXI but they managed to ruin that. There are threads about this on the JP forums ALOT and I do mean ALOT of the gamers there agree with posts like mine. It seems like the western market really enjoys nerfs and handouts while JP and other markets want to earn stuff. Kinda strange.

[KaedrianLiang]

...Anarchy Online...

AO's shadowlands expansion was the best expansion in the genre, it's met its match as ffxiv:hw though.

[hagare]

This game is not FFXI stop asking for it to be FFXI

[DawnSolaria]

Guess what: I grinded out my Veil of Wiyu Novus in mere THREE days!

Half of objective isnt the only thing they nerfed, I also got all the alexanderite I needed in mere TWO hours thanks to 2000/2000 poetics i saved up. Whats even more awesome is that I dont have to give a bull's feces on what materia i meld onto it.

Does this upset you OP? Does it?

[Skos]

Loool. You really want special treatment 'cause you are from FFXI? Just follow up on your words and quit the game already.

[SkizzleofRagnarok]

Hagare: No one is asking for a new FFXI we are merely asking for some elements from FFXI since Yoshi is already using elements from other games.

DwanSolaria: Good for you, it does not upset me at all that you have it. Its this poor handout mentality to everything. Its not the players fault its the developers and directors who think this is some good idea. Like I said you can only get away with it once. People won't go crazy on doing the relics again if they will get punished for putting effort in. There is no hate towards the player whatsoever Dawn because its not your fault. Stuff is simple now take advantage i would too.

[Ashkendor]

Ashkendor: You do know if Yoshi P learned something from FFXI he would have left the relic untouched everything else can be this upward progression but keep something for the legacy players from FFXI. Everything else is themeparked why cant we have just one damn thing to enjoy? Is that really too much to ask? We are aware you want everything to be easy to keep a player beeing active so you nerf everything so they can catch up on story primals etc but why cant you just leave the relic alone and just say look to get this relic you must know earn it no handouts. Its just one damn thing. It will make a big chunk of the community happy and not just me as an OP complaining.

He did learn something from FFXI and from 1.0. He learned they aren't viable in today's MMO market.

We'll have a new "relic" questline come 3.1, so it's pointless to leave the old one un-nerfed.

I say this as someone that completed four Zetas. *shrug*