Did Yoshi P messed up the relics Im trying to understand the meaning of this help me!

[Moonleg]

1) People with a zeta have been promised 'consideration' when the Heavensward relic quest line begins in 3.1
2) Traditionally, an expansion to an MMO means that all the stuff you had becomes effectively useless. It has always been this way and will always be this way, otherwise newer players will always be years behind with no realistic way of catching up.

What you GOT from your investment was months of being at the top of the line; not an eternal place among the stars.

[Mykll]

What you GOT from your investment was months of being at the top of the line; not an eternal place among the stars.

This, right here, is why I am against house transfers to Ishgard.

Anyroad, we must needs please look forward to it.

As long as there is a way to keep upgrading the relics, then I don't mind being behind until I get caught up. I just wish HW dungeons gave lights. But if there were never any updates to the line, then that entire line of the game may as well be erased, nobody would do it. Yeah, bust your butt for ilvl 80, 90, 100, 110, 115, etc. etc. weapons, or, just buy the ilvl 115 weapon right at level 50 in Heavensward.

As it is so few probably even do the relic armour quests at level 45 and 50, for the upgrades. I remember doing mine, putting the outfit on, see how it looks, and straight into the Armoire.

Just the nature of the game. Something can't be updated? Used for glamour. Something can be updated to remain remotely close to the best? Used as your gear set. Or for glamour when you DO get something slightly better.

Every game does this. Every game can make you spend a large amount of time to gain something, just to have it outdated.

"Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?"

End the end, it is worth your time to do it sooner so you can be among the top for a while, or do it later if it can be upgraded or it can be used for glamours.

[Jim_Berry]

1) Traditionally, an expansion to an MMO means that all the stuff you had becomes effectively useless.

Unless a FFXI move happens, where your old Relic weapons, Relic gear, and Artifact gear can be upgraded to high portions.

When your old gear goes from this:


to this:


...you'll always feel good about obtaining/keeping gear.

[StrejdaTom]

Unless a FFXI move happens, where your old Relic weapons, Relic gear, and Artifact gear can be upgraded to high portions.

Shame that stuff like this will never happen here.
We will be probably able to skip a few dialogs as a reward for having ZETA and then end up in same grind we had to do before.
I am all about game being friendly to newcomers, but this game is scrapping all achievements faster than I have ever seen in any other MMO I have played.
Imagine the new relic being a bit stronger if you had ZETA when you started the Q. There would be enormous portion of rant on forums, mostly by people who don't even raid = who don't even have to min/max.

So the only thing you will have for playing this game for 5 years compared to someone who plays it 3 months is the amount of titles.
It might be enough for someone..