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  1. #2171
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    Well, I was just reminded of why I quit healing in 2.X.

    Tank dodges nothing, uses zero cooldowns, not even shield oath. I get them through first two bosses, dying on trash because tank can't hold aggro. We wipe twice to curator, partially because I have to spam bene 2 on the tank cause he sucks, and partially because one of the DPS isn't killing adds.

    Take a wild guess who got kicked?

    I'm done with healing again. And I was having fun with AST, too, but nothing is worth this headache.
    I hear you. WHM was my only class for a while, but I ended up getting fed up of it and trying DPS (Nin.) Most fun I've had in dungeons for ages.

    Healers end up having the most work while also being punished for everyone else's mistakes, and it's unfair how the blame immediately goes to them when everything goes to hell. Whenever a run went badly, I'd feel embarrassed and convince myself it was because I was a bad healer. After playing a different role, I've realised that a lot of the time, it was down to the tanks/ DPS not doing their job properly. DPS in particular - just trivial things like not walking into AoEs and taking down adds make battles go 100% smoother, even if the healer isn't very good. The amount of times I've had "how <insert duty> goes is all down to the healer!!!" lumped on me when something goes wrong, only to oneshot it with minimal trouble with new tanks/ DPS...

    It's been fun playing without having all the responsibility heaped on me this time.
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  2. #2172
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by mirellol View Post
    Sounds like grounds for /blacklist

    As for the horror stories... I don't main healer because I think it's one of the most hectic jobs ingame. DPS screws up? Tank screws up? Ultimately the healer carries their fails and it doesn't even get noticed when the healer is good. Every time I pop on healer I feel a renewed appreciation for the class. As much as I love a good tank as a melee maybe I should start commending the heals instead.

    I found the "lamp healer" comment really amusing. :-D Yesterday I got a Vault run with three only-speaking-french-premades and I just happened to notice their PLD tank didn't have any sort of cooldown rotation during trash pulls. None. Only random CD's during bosses like Fight or Flight... Normally I might not even pay attention but this time I noticed and bad tanks like that really irritate me so I decided to try the "lamp healer" stance. I just stood there, healing. Tbh it was very relaxing and easy. Just watching the others hack away at the mobs hahah. The sad part was that when I did all out DPS some parts just to move faster I could easily out dps them if I wanted to. The unfunny part was that one of their DPS kept DC'ing and DC'ed at the last boss which then took forever hanging in the threshold of almost oom all the time Altar Pyre spam yay!

    tl;dr: Tanks who are too cool for cooldowns.
    I'm going to call them lamp healers from now on.

    Though in the Brayflox instance, he didn't even do that. It was a case of "lamp with the physik ability that didn't use it."

    During boss fights, the tank's health would be going down, down... and he did nothing. He wasn't AFK, because he moved around, but he didn't cast anything. We skimmed through by the skin of our teeth on the first few bosses, but obviously it didn't work on the last one, and after two wipes, the tank and other DPS rage quit. I was left waiting for new members with him (one of which was a high level summoner who ended up carrying the healing) while he hopped around and spammed Bene at me. I was like "why weren't you doing that BEFORE?!"
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  3. #2173
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    Kumori_Kumo's Avatar
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Dusk Vigil. Warrior in all 110 gear, pulling as much as humanly possible and racing from one encounter to another. GOTTA GO FAST.
    Except not. They got 2-shot by three little mobs and one of the big lion-y things.
    Of course, they might not've if they'd used a cooldown. :V
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  4. #2174
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    After playing a different role, I've realised that a lot of the time, it was down to the tanks/ DPS not doing their job properly. DPS in particular - just trivial things like not walking into AoEs and taking down adds make battles go 100% smoother, even if the healer isn't very good.
    I had the same experience I primarily play Healer roles in MMO's but when I started trying DPS classes including in this game I realised how in denial some people are about being bad. Unless I make a huge mistake I'll barely need a heal the whole dungeon and even then it's just party wide damage or a skill that sacrifices some of my own HP. What some people don't understand is that the Healer's primary concern is Tanks and not chain healing people because they tunnel vision.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 08-09-2015 at 09:34 PM.

  5. #2175
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Just got fed up healing Stone Vigil and left the group. Tank tanks the second boss right on top of the cannons facing them so I'd get hit and interrupted while trying to operate them. Summoner wouldn't multidot and would only cast his 3 DoTs, nothing else. No Ruin and no aetherflow abilities. Monk didn't know what a positional was, and he didn't care to get out of AoEs either. Mobs were only dying because I was in cleric stance.

    I also had a Keeper of the Lake group the other day where the 2 DPS were incapable of attacking the mob carrying the shield in the final fight, and when they did attack it, they didn't do enough damage to kill it together. Let that sink in for a minute. It was only dying because I was in cleric stance, and on our last attempt I had to push healing instead of DPS because of people standing in AoEs. So I left that one too, and the tank was on the same page as I was.
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  6. #2176
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    Grogs's Avatar
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    Grogs Onyx
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 42
    Hello forums. I just got my WHM started up and am hitting the 30s stride.

    I am scared of Bots. They are in my Dungeon Finder all the time.

    I don't feel horror as much as I feel guilty leaving those groups or kicking/waiting for replacements. We had to kick a Healer Bot on my Monk, and this really nice WHM came into our group.

    He/She inspired me to start clicking the check box to join instances already in progress. Other people need help from bots - join the fight. Be a Human!
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  7. #2177
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Tanks not getting into their tanking stances, using ALL of their cooldowns immediatly after they've pulled. Doesn't dodge any AoE's, has level 1 rings and 30:ish gear and can't hold aggro. Not even from me, and especially not from the dps.
    Guess who gets the blame? :P..... Doesn't help either when they clearly fuck up majorly, and then have attitude problems and put all of the blame on you. As if I can heal through three group pulls + AoE or Boss insta kills.
    Happened to me 3 times in a row today.... Holy crap was I happy when I got an even remotely competent Tank the 4th time o.O....

    But seriously tanks. Do you really need to use all five defensive cooldowns on two mobs, and then act all surprised when you can't survive three groups + standing in the AoE immediatly afterwards, no matter how much I heal you?
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 08-10-2015 at 03:19 AM.

  8. #2178
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    Kolsykol's Avatar
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Dark Knights..... Honestly. The new jobs should get some kind of decent starting gear.
    I am getting a bit freaking irritated of running with DRK tanks who wear gear with +1 stats o.O....
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  9. #2179
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    Aldebaran92's Avatar
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    Neo Almagest
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Just did an A1 run for my last drop this week and got a Warrior and a Dark Knight as tanks. No problems, I thought, until it turned out that both of them were wearing nothing but strength accessories. They were both pretty close to the minimum ilevel requirement as well. Plus, the Warrior never used Defiance, making healing him a real b*tch. Don't get me wrong, A1 isn't that hard to heal normally and we only wiped because of wrong placement of the adds, but it was a lot harder than it usually is, and since the other healer was new, there were some close calls at times.

    I don't know exactly how this trend got so widespread, but I hate it, and I'm afraid my FC will kick me out since I won't stop complaining about it when I meet tanks like this. One or 2 strength accessories is fine, but tanks (especially Warriors) who like to play pretend they're all DPS sicken me to no end and make me wanna quit healing altogether.
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  10. #2180
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    Selli Noblesse
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Just healed A1 normal with my boyfriend as a tank. We didn't get a new bonus, but every single DPS stood in the line AoE at one point or another and repeatedly failed to pick up 1-2 of the adds. Each DPS got 1-2 raises each. x.x Somehow, we only managed to fail to minimize the bomb once and the other healer and I managed to keep the party alive sub 1k MP the rest of the run. We saw 5 jumps before the Oppressers died. >.<
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