Refunded for Heavensward.

[Heskett]

That's good for them, but I don't play all day. I have a full-time career and responsibilities.

Seems like you should stick to games you can easily put in 1-2 hours of playtime and put down. MMOs are definitely not that.

[AdamFyi]

Three months ago? They were both posted last month, during July. Do you know how numbers work? 7 is just before 8. 3 months ago would have been May, the 5th month.

Oh, my bad. Numbers are swapped on my end. Still, you had a month or so to complete it. No excuses there. :u

[Reinha]

Turns out I still had to play through all the irrelevant lv50 content

Level 50 content is no less relevant than 1-49 content and 51-59 content. You may not be getting levels but you are still making progress, for example unlocking high roulette and trial roulette, advancing the story and getting gear.

I guess it was good for you that you got bored already. You saved yourself some time and money, because this game isn't really suited for people with the end-game-only-max-out-quick-to-start-raiding-and-grinding-tomes mentality who don't appreciate the journey. Doesn't mean the game is bad or that you are a bad customer, it just means that you don't match their target audience. If I may recommend another game, you should try WoW. Leveling and story are irrelevant there, but raids are really good and have lots of bosses.

Also, it was not bait and switch. Here's what 3.0 patch notes say:

Quest
Coming to Ishgard
Required Level and Location
Disciple of War or Magic level 50
Intercessory (X:6 Y:6)
NPC: Alphinaud
Players must first complete the main scenario quest "Before the Dawn"

Source: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...98c204c6199e5a

If you pre-ordered before reading patch notes which were released on June 19th, the official pre-order / early access page also says you have to have made sufficient progress in the main scenario in order to access the content. There is no way you can blame the company for this misunderstanding. I'm very surprised you got refunded in the end.

[sirDarts]

That's good for them, but I don't play all day. I have a full-time career and responsibilities.

As already said, I am in a similar situation, and it took me just about a month WITH watching the story, leveling a secondary job, and having to grind gear.
Not to mention that you get a HUGE advantage for HW content by running lvl 50 quests after release since you will get EXP for it, and won't have to grind in HW.

[Terribad]

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It takes awhile. My friend that did the quests with me, did one dungeon alone, he waited over an hour. I know as a tank I waited over an hour three different times, which is unheard of.

I don't think he's over exaggerating, and even if he was, honestly anything longer than a day is unheard of for accessing expansions.

this game isn't really suited for people with the end-game-only-max-out-quick-to-start-raiding-and-grinding-tomes

That's all this game is. >_>

[Raikou777]

I guess it was good for you that you got bored already. You saved yourself some time and money, because this game isn't really suited for people with the end-game-only-max-out-quick-to-start-raiding-and-grinding-tomes mentality who don't appreciate the journey. Doesn't mean the game is bad or that you are a bad customer, it just means that you don't match their target audience. If I may recommend another game, you should try WoW. Leveling and story are irrelevant there, but raids are really good and have lots of bosses. ^^

I played WoW for years. Quit in Cata, and came back for WoD but was completely disappointed again. The leveling was the only thing I've enjoyed in that game in the past few expansions. I have no interest in Legion.

FFXIV has been completely the opposite. The leveling is boring as all hell, but the few Trials I did have all been fun, and so have the dungeons. Ramuh was my favorite boss fight since Kael'thas.

[Eye_Gore]

Well I guess anyone that would really want to keep playing into the expansion would just grind it out. Even playing 2-3 hours a day will get you through in a few weeks. Thats about what it took me to get through from 2.1 to 3.0. Not even playing everyday either.

[sirDarts]

It takes awhile. My friend that did the quests with me, did one dungeon alone, he waited over an hour. I know as a tank I waited over an hour three different times, which is unheard of.

What dungeon was that? I can imagine that happening in the High Roulette dungeons, but those are mostly optional. Anyways there is an easy way to avoid this - if someone takes a long time to get in, queue up right after the roulette resets, nothing should take over 15 minutes then.

I don't think he's over exaggerating, and even if he was, honestly anything longer than a day is unheard of for accessing expansions.

And what do you base that assertion on? The Expansion is NOT standalone, it's a STORY expansion, so of course you need to finish the previous story. This is not WoW.

[Naunet]

I guess it was good for you that you got bored already. You saved yourself some time and money, because this game isn't really suited for people with the end-game-only-max-out-quick-to-start-raiding-and-grinding-tomes mentality who don't appreciate the journey.

Yoshi has literally gone on record that he doesn't think the game actually starts until level cap. Leveling is just a tutorial. Those are his words. >_>

While I'm not the kind of person who generally wants to rush to endgame, I think it's wrong to try and present this game as something where the journey is more important than the cap.

[Mattia]

Why did you bother making this topic?