Accuracy: Can it just go away?

[Adire]

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Regardless of how they word it, it's still punishment in practice. Keeping people alive, preferably comfortably if you're not a risk taker, is doing your job as a healer. DPSing instead of semi-afking when everyone isn't dying is going above and beyond. Now we're being crippled in our ability to do that optimally.

SE should really re-add accuracy to healer gear or just remove accuracy as a mechanic if they're balancing content with healer dps in mind. Makes little sense to have accuracy on healer gear before content was balanced for healer dps, then remove it when content is actually balanced for healer dps.

We are being quite thoroughly punished if we're expected to dps now by square without actually getting the accuracy to do it.

[Syrehn]

Guess you glossed over the various reposts of the Square interview where Yoshida stated he was genuinely surprised at seeing that healers were DDing with the rest of the group when not healing. Square's prevailing view on healers till recently was that that's all they did, heal. Alexander Savage is the first time Square has balanced content with healer DDing taken into consideration. It's not that you're being punished, it's that you weren't really doing your job according to Square.

Of course, now that Square has done that, people are having problems with Alexander Savage's various DPS checks, like Square was expecting certain players to be doing something.

I'm pretty sure they came out and said they don't include healer DPS when balancing any of the fights but they are looking at tank dps. Here's the link.

[ShaneDawn]

Yes please.

I'm scared to think of future content without accuracy on healer gear.

I do not understand SE's viewpoint of "let's punish healers who want to play exceptionally by not letting them dps".

Punished for being able to play good...like what?

I don't think I'll be able to heal in the future if I miss so much that I'm literally forced to stand there semi-afk because people don't need healing and I can't DPS. Way too boring.

I agree, but you know not all people like to be useful. They want to do as little as possible. Why dps, when I can pick my nose for 10s before the next required heal?

Instead of making the actual healing more demanding, they reduced the chances to dps. And considering they're throwing all the dps checks now even on mid-tier content, how was that a good decision?

[Kewitt]

Make misses not miss but do 1/3 DMG instead.

As a tank... there is nothing wrose then doing end game for the 1st few time not over geared and my hate rotations misses 2 step.

[Makado]

Remove accuracy. Then people would be allowed to get the gear they want, in whatever order they would like, as well as play the style they want to, as in stacking up their favorite stat or keeping them all balanced without having to worry about it.

[Ibi]

If not get rid of it, at least make excess accuracy do something beneficial instead of becoming a pure waste.

The best option might actually be to take a page out of World of Warcraft's book, though it's slightly unintuitive. You would reach 100% hit rate with special attacks (i.e. anything actually pushed a button for) at a much lower accuracy number than was needed to reach 100% hit rate for auto attacks.

With that in place, everyone gets at least the low threshold (so that you don't miss an action and break up your combo), but accuracy beyond that is still increasing your overall damage by making more of your auto attacks connect.

[Miitan]

While we're at it, I think we should make all rotations a max of 3 buttons. It's not fun with more.

[FallenArisen0990]

I'm pretty sure they came out and said they don't include healer DPS when balancing any of the fights but they are looking at tank dps.

Yep I remember this. If it really was an issue, SE will fix it. For now, they don't see it as an issue.

[bideogames]

hell yeah i love accuracy. i love stats that are completely useless if you have more than an arbitrary amount, but if you have less than than arbitrary number it's a huge damage loss. what's the number??? who knows. not gonna tell you. also the number changes all the time.

accuracy blows.

[Gilraen]

I'm pretty sure they came out and said they don't include healer DPS when balancing any of the fights but they are looking at tank dps.

No, it was healers. Took forever but I finally found the interview (or forum posts reposting the interview, anyway).

From this thread http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...erview-summary

* Heavensward expects Healers to DPS. They increased the offensive power of the WHM, not because they want them to be real DPS but because they first didn't expect the players to have the healers DPS in coil, they were surprised to see the top parties do that and they changed their plan. When they do the new raid they now takes healer dps into consideration, that will be a major difference between alexander normal and hard, in the normal mode dps check they don't take into account the healers' damages.

Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...erview-summary
Source: http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs...26_703330.html

This thread has a good summary of the info from the gamewatch interview at Nantes and while I can't find the exact quote from google translate it does state that they were surprised to see healer dps in coil so are considering it in the hard mode of Alexander.

Here is the broken google translate from the jp doc:

- If you do not extend so much and so much to see as a whole?

Yoshida:　 That's right. Since both all jobs at a level 60 DPS than ever are rising, it is only meaning that extends by the amount commensurate also White Mage. The original development team, such as large labyrinth Bahamut, assumes the item level that would of general arms players can be cleared at the time of the raid capture. By summing the foundation DPS of 4DPS a tank has reached its assumption item level, it makes a clear assumption further by lowering the 15% threshold from 10%. DPS of healer does not take into calculation.

　But, certainly people in the world's top level, since the fastest capture conflict, than the item-level development has been assumed, it aims to clear at a lower item level. Sonaruto, only basic DPS of 4DSP and the tank is numerically will not be able to clear, the results, if there is a DPS to put out, will try to capture They have also calculated DPS healer by many DPS even a little, that. If they clear the video comes out, because the healer has also issued a DPS, "healer also the DPS!" But is often think, it is a situation that has occurred since "trying to clear with the impossible." By foot cut a numeric value this fully, but in the following assumption item level I also possible to make so as not to be cleared, So the high people of the players skills, increase mutual understanding and items understanding of all and to devise , to clear with the last minute of the last minute, it would end up eliminating the play called. Although it is a difficult decision, but I think still wonder if soon fixed the party's policy.

　This is also the cause of the reasons for this time Kiko Castle Alexander was supposed to implement two of the normal and hard. Again, the development team because it does not include the DPS of healer to capture the raid, compared also with other jobs in the current level cap open, I want you to think that only the sum of the rise of as healer .

Append:

I believe that was a confirmed as a mistranslation. See the direct quote here.

Nice find, but really just says more of the same, that Coil healers blew their minds when they took time to DD instead of healing and that Alexander Savage has been balanced around it.