Emotes in the cash shop..

[FoxyAreku]

They really shouldn't let you get this stuff back at all. It was a one time event, guess I'm just used to WoW where you could never get event stuff again.

I have no problem with them selling optional items, as they are optional and do not effect your enjoyment of the game what so ever since they are purely cosmetic. I'd just rather event items stay on the people who were there for the event.

[justinjarjar]

They really shouldn't let you get this stuff back at all. It was a one time event, guess I'm just used to WoW where you could never get event stuff again.

I have no problem with them selling optional items, as they are optional and do not effect your enjoyment of the game what so ever since they are purely cosmetic. I'd just rather event items stay on the people who were there for the event.

That's your preference, SE sees the models they already made and went heck why not sell them instead of spend time making new models just for the cash store. There are a few new models in the cash store, but the store is mainly a way to reuse models. (they also give new models for seasonal events)

[FoxyAreku]

That's your preference, SE sees the models they already made and went heck why not sell them instead of spend time making new models. There are a few new models, but the store is mainly a way to reuse models.

Nothing wrong with that. Just saying people should be happy there's a way to get this stuff at all.

It's not even expensive. People always say that 'oh I already pay a monthly fee" but that's only a fee to access the game servers...has nothing to do with optional stuff and it doesn't entitle you to everything that SE makes for the game.

[justinjarjar]

Nothing wrong with that. Just saying people should be happy there's a way to get this stuff at all.

It's not even expensive. People always say that 'oh I already pay a monthly fee" but that's only a fee to access the game servers...has nothing to do with optional stuff and it doesn't entitle you to everything that SE makes for the game.

cool......

[Naunet]

I prefer to have them sold at cash shop, I'd buy them for a few bucks and I'll enjoy the new events instead, rather than re-doing the old event quests. It's old.
Each to their own I guess.

You wouldn't have to re-do old event quests. The items would be available on the event vendor for a small amount of gil, like SE has already done in the past.

1) SE getting more money = GOOD! Stop crying about SE getting more money.
2) These items were already part of gameplay and obtainable for free.
3) New players can easily go for new items. Nobody is forcing them to buy anything. They really really really want this specific one? They can, they just have to buy it.
4) If SE would return old events they would have less incentive to create new ones = BAD.

As consumers, we have every right to speak up when a business we want to support does something we don't agree with. We do not have to remain silent. Business do not have some innate "right" to profit.

Your #3 contradicts itself, by the way. And your #4 is a complete straw man - no one is asking for SE to repeat old events, just that they do what they've already done in the past: put old items on the new event vendor for gil.

This also a way to reward players that play the game since longer than you do.

Except it negatively impacts anyone, regardless of how long they've played, because these event items are not unlocked account-wide.

SE can make money from these items without hurting ANYONE.

Uh. Clearly by the number of people upset, they have hurt people.

[adn]

I really do not care about the cash shop as long as it does not start impacting things outside of vanity items. When WoW introduced level 90 boosts to their cash shop it created a phenomenon known as "boosters" which were people who simply bought their way to 90 and then attempted to waltz into endgame content with awful gear and no idea how to play their character. It was terrible.

As long as they keep the cash shop to fun stuff only and do not put anything in there that can damage the quality of the game or the in-game economy I say it's perfectly fine.

Honestly, if people want to complain about microtransactions I think a better target would be their model for extra retainers, because after a certain point you are practically REQUIRED to buy retainers as a crafter. All of the stuff in the cash shop is just fun stuff that you don't really NEED.

Also as other people have said the gifting feature is really nice.

[Hix]

SE made this game to make money. Timed event items being exclusive to those events helps them make money by incentivizing people to play subs during those events, and lets players feel like special snowflakes compared to later players. Giving players an opportunity to pay for these items with real money gets SE more money while not overly upsetting the people who want to feel like special snowflakes, and also preserves some of the incentive to entice people to sub during the events.

So bottom line is, SE makes money both from incentivizing subs during the events and selling stuff after the events, while a significant portion of the player base who maintains consistent subs will be satisfied and get the special snowflake feeling. If they change the policy they are going to lose money both on subs and item sales, and piss off possibly more people than if they don't change it.

TLDR: SE isn't going to change it.

[Naunet]

So here's a question for the malcontents: How would YOU fix this concern?

I don't think "item bloat" is an issue. Already stated my solutions:

1. Unlock all event items account-wide. If you did the event on one character, let the player purchase said items on the Calamity Salvager on any character thereafter.
2. Go back to the old system of leaving old items for sale for gil on the event vendor.

So what I'm getting from the atmosphere in this thread is that the people who earned their Bomb Dance are pissed off because the rest of us, who have NOT earned it, get to buy it without going through the trouble of working for one.

That's so far from the point of this thread. -_-;

a solution that they only used, iirc, for the 1.0>2.0 transition to make the 1.0 holiday items available to 2.0 players. At the time it looked an awful lot like they were going to go with the "If you weren't here it sucks to be you" model of seasonal events going forward.

Wrong. The second summer event (the one last year, with the yukatas) had not only the yukatas, but also the previous year's bikinis, AND the 1.0 yukatas. Three years worth of event gear.

[Lewtskie]

SOOOO many people forget that the success of the Cash Shop is what helped fund the new server. And once the server is done and ready they'll probably start being able to upgrade other equipment. It's plain to see SE has left Yoshi and the XIV Team to fend for themselves financially what with how limited everything has been. So I have no dilemma towards such unnecessary fluff being on the shop. Especially that I know the proceeds are actually going to helping better the game.

[Teryaani]

That's so far from the point of this thread. -_-;

It is absolutely not the point you're arguing. You're right. You would like the old items available in the vendor. Are you proposing the emotes be vendored as well or somehow incorporated into the quests again?

That said, some people are saying that though. I personally don't care either way. I do like the idea of account wide unlocks idea and I enjoyed having the 1.0 stuff available for the early events. So I'd be being hypocritical if I cared about old stuff being on the vendor. Edit: Ugh - just to be clear, not saying that if you think you needed to be subbed for the event you're being hypocritical. You aren't. That is a valid way to look at it. I'm saying that If I said that then I would be being a hypocrite.

Wrong. The second summer event (the one last year, with the yukatas) had not only the yukatas, but also the previous year's bikinis, AND the 1.0 yukatas. Three years worth of event gear.

I don't remember seeing all the swimsuits in the vendor. I admit that I could be mistaken though.