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    Dissipation vs Divine Seal

    Synastry
    Increases healing magic potency by 20% for 20s.
    Heals bleed to the target for an additional 40% healing. Amazing on Wars :'3
    30 yard range!
    90s Cooldown.

    Dissipation:
    Increases healing magic potency by 0% to -5% for 30s.
    Gives you Aetherflow.
    180s Cooldown.
    Costs a ton of mana.

    Divine Seal
    Increases healing magic potency by 30% for 15s.
    60s Cooldown.



    I really think this needs looked at, it is quite clear that Astrologian and White Mage abilities when comparing to this one are quite overpowered.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-25-2015 at 10:43 PM.

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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    This thread is dumb.

    Dissipation's use is for burst AoE healing, the one thing your fairy sucks at.

    SCH didn't even HAVE Dissipation in 2.0 when WHM had Divine Seal...and SCH was still good.
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    Last edited by pandabearcat; 08-07-2015 at 03:51 AM.

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    Luciero Darkwing
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    And then you cripple yourself for 30s as well as losing mp and swiftcast on your fairy making it a big loss.
    Dissipation is useless.
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    Then don't use it. You didn't have it in 2.0, why weren't you complaining about divine seal then?
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    Dissipation sucks, you don't need to compare it to some random skill from another job to make that case.
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    troll account?

    if not, everyone should just ignore him. He is a lvl 57 sch (also lvl 20 cnj and lvl 26 thm) with what looks like 0 Raid Experience using lvl 50 i110/i120 sol/wod pieces. He doesn't have enough experience with the class(s) to really complain...
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    It does not suck, it's just very situational. Think of the potential shield you could have if you use fey illumination->dissipation-> adlo+deployment tactics. This is a 3000+HP shield (8000+ if adlo crits considering the recent tweak to critical hit rate) and it may very well be the ultimate mitigation in future end game content where you might save your LB for your dps instead of having your tank use it to survive the massive AoE SE will surely throw at us. It can be used to increase your dps a little as well. Of course you don't want to use always use, in fact you'll probably use it once or twice in very specific situations, but it has potential. A 20% healing buff is a very big deal when applied to galvanize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    troll account?

    if not, everyone should just ignore him. He is a lvl 57 sch (also lvl 20 cnj and lvl 26 thm) with what looks like 0 Raid Experience using lvl 50 i110/i120 sol/wod pieces. He doesn't have enough experience with the class(s) to really complain...
    I have different characters for every class. As a role-player I like to have different characters and appearance, this is simply one of my alts.

    Also, what about level 50 experience? The expansion has been out 3 months, and I am working on several characters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    It does not suck, it's just very situational. Think of the potential shield you could have if you use fey illumination->dissipation-> adlo+deployment tactics. This is a 3000+HP shield (8000+ if adlo crits considering the recent tweak to critical hit rate) and it may very well be the ultimate mitigation in future end game content where you might save your LB for your dps instead of having your tank use it to survive the massive AoE SE will surely throw at us. It can be used to increase your dps a little as well. Of course you don't want to use always use, in fact you'll probably use it once or twice in very specific situations, but it has potential. A 20% healing buff is a very big deal when applied to galvanize.
    Rouse + Whispering Dawn says hi. Much, Much Better as long as your max health exceeds the damage your going to take. That combo is ONLY better if you rely on it and are fully prepared for it. Which you just shouldn't, i'd rather just Sacred Soil+Fey Illum+Succor then Rouse+Whispering Dawn for big AOE hits, as LONG as someone has 1 HP left the combo is much better.

    You click Fey Illumination then have to wait about 3 seconds for her to cast it even if you control the Faerie, then Dissipation, then Adlo, then deployment tactics.

    Also.

    Radius: 5 yalms kind of makes the ability pointless unless your in a very organized raid and about to get a HUGE hit.

    So, I could perhaps see it working for one or two party fights in the game. However overall, its really just ok.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-07-2015 at 04:33 AM.

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    Sora Kysuke
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    Hi, you must have not touched savage Alexander yet, have you? I hate dissipation, but it has its use where it needs to be used.
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    Alexander Miller
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    You're comparing apples to oranges here. Someone brings up mitigation and you delve right into talk about straight up healing and throughput.

    Dissipaiton has its uses. It's extremely situational, sure, but all classes have situational skills. If you use Dissipation correctly, as others pointed out, you can mitigate a ridiculous amount of damage AND be able to put through a fair decent amount of solid healing with Emergency Tactics. Are there other options? Sure, there are other options, but you're not going to have nearly as much potential to mitigate other wise.

    Also, you seem to be, you know, completely leaving out the second part of the skill, which is the fact that you get a full stack of Aetherflow, which you can mindlessly dump into whatever heal spamming moves you want.

    Don't compare the potential of Scholar's mitigation to random throughput healing. 90% of the time, even in Raid content, you aren't going to need Whispering Dawn. Scholar's AoE healing sucks, even with that. You're supposed to leave it to your WHM or AST to solve that problem; Cure III and Medica II/Aspected Helios say hi. You should be using Selene for the DPS buff she brings.
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