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    troll account?

    if not, everyone should just ignore him. He is a lvl 57 sch (also lvl 20 cnj and lvl 26 thm) with what looks like 0 Raid Experience using lvl 50 i110/i120 sol/wod pieces. He doesn't have enough experience with the class(s) to really complain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    troll account?

    if not, everyone should just ignore him. He is a lvl 57 sch (also lvl 20 cnj and lvl 26 thm) with what looks like 0 Raid Experience using lvl 50 i110/i120 sol/wod pieces. He doesn't have enough experience with the class(s) to really complain...
    I have different characters for every class. As a role-player I like to have different characters and appearance, this is simply one of my alts.

    Also, what about level 50 experience? The expansion has been out 3 months, and I am working on several characters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    It does not suck, it's just very situational. Think of the potential shield you could have if you use fey illumination->dissipation-> adlo+deployment tactics. This is a 3000+HP shield (8000+ if adlo crits considering the recent tweak to critical hit rate) and it may very well be the ultimate mitigation in future end game content where you might save your LB for your dps instead of having your tank use it to survive the massive AoE SE will surely throw at us. It can be used to increase your dps a little as well. Of course you don't want to use always use, in fact you'll probably use it once or twice in very specific situations, but it has potential. A 20% healing buff is a very big deal when applied to galvanize.
    Rouse + Whispering Dawn says hi. Much, Much Better as long as your max health exceeds the damage your going to take. That combo is ONLY better if you rely on it and are fully prepared for it. Which you just shouldn't, i'd rather just Sacred Soil+Fey Illum+Succor then Rouse+Whispering Dawn for big AOE hits, as LONG as someone has 1 HP left the combo is much better.

    You click Fey Illumination then have to wait about 3 seconds for her to cast it even if you control the Faerie, then Dissipation, then Adlo, then deployment tactics.

    Also.

    Radius: 5 yalms kind of makes the ability pointless unless your in a very organized raid and about to get a HUGE hit.

    So, I could perhaps see it working for one or two party fights in the game. However overall, its really just ok.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-07-2015 at 04:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
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    Do you have any experience in end game raid progression? Also, you've just ignored half of my comment.

    Rouse + Whispering Dawn says hi
    Bahamut Prime says hi.

    as long as your max health exceeds the damage your going to take
    You don't say! Let me quote myself: "it may very well be the ultimate mitigation in future end game content where you might save your LB for your dps instead of having your tank use it to survive the massive AoE SE will surely throw at us". In T13 you had to use the tank LB to survive the teraflare. A stronger shield might let your dps use the LB instead of using the tank LB3 to survive the AOE -> huge dps increase.
    ONLY better if you rely on it and are fully prepared for it. Which you just shouldn't
    What does this even mean? I'm talking about the potential of Dissipation and I proved that it has some nice uses. I can assure you it works very well in A1S: the boss jumps and there's a 30 seconds downtime...dissipation has a 30 seconds duration. Do you think this a coincidence? Of course it can be done in several ways, but combining the combo I suggested with a Divine Veil and/or a Sacred Soil will let your party survive even if you do not reach the safest spot. Your reply make no sense whatsoever.

    i'd rather just Sacred Soil+Fey Illum+Succor then Rouse+Whispering Dawn for big AOE hits, as LONG as someone has 1 HP left the combo is much better
    And then watch you party die at the next teraflare. There will be a next one, we all know it. Also, that combo wasn't even enough to counter the nerve cloud in T10 (again, I'm talking about progression, not about doing it with ilvl130 gear), you'd need a supervirus too and fey covenant. What does this mean? That SCH always had to maximize his damage reduction capacity. Dissipation simply takes it even further. Also, 3 "free" stacks of Aetherflow can save your party if for any reason you are out of AF and you really need that Sacred Soil / Indomitability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Bahamut Prime says hi
    Doing Turn 13 at level 60 with level 60 skills.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Dissipation simply takes it even further.
    Dissipation did not exist at level 50. Your talking about old content, that content does not matter anymore. While we are at it we should talk about different games, since we are going off topic here.

    Anyways, I am just laughing because your using a new ability for an old example of out-dated content. You can clear it with a few 60s. I think I even saw four people a bit ago do it. You can probably do it with even less.
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-07-2015 at 05:25 AM.

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    I don't quite get the argument of using it for a bigger adlo. You can still adlo without dissipation. So it's a few hundred extra damage prevented. For that you want to be crippled for 30 seconds? Specially since your fairy alone could make up that difference no problem. SE isn't designing content for mandatory job inclusion so it really seems like it's just hunting for a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    So your suggesting that we will never, ever have to deal again with massive AoEs that will wipe the raid in 1 hit? This is what your saying, you know?
    Which level 60 dungeon or raid has a big AOE that will wipe the raid in one big hit that isn't a fail mechanic? As long as you have 1 HP left the said combo before is better. That in of itself would make Astrologian useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    I don't quite get the argument of using it for a bigger adlo. You can still adlo without dissipation. So it's a few hundred extra damage prevented. For that you want to be crippled for 30 seconds? Specially since your fairy alone could make up that difference no problem. SE isn't designing content for mandatory job inclusion so it really seems like it's just hunting for a problem.
    Yep. =) If they made a raid designed with one big hit it would make scholars required like Warriors. =P
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    Last edited by Nektulos-Tuor; 08-07-2015 at 05:42 AM.