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  1. #41
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Or they actually use search option to rather necro threads with same theme rather than make 20 same threads in the span of 1 week. hihi
    And they don't seem to make threads like this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Ramuh%21%21%21
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  2. #42
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    Joeking's Avatar
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    Boy Friend
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    No one in the thread has /pray to SE, so no one deserves any answers.
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    While we are at it, take a look at those "Free items (I want my twintania) code" threads in New Player Help section.

    I was read that section from time to time if there's any new player actually need help, nowsday I don't bother it anymore, more than half of page are "my code" threads.
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  4. #44
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    I dunno, to be honest, maybe if SE actually responded to threads, so people notice the big shiny crown on a topic they were gonna make a post about. It won't kill the spam, but I'm sure as heck if people saw community devs actually actively providing feedback on hot issues, it'd several cut down on the spam (Or at least result in the first reply to spammed topics being a link to the dev response).

    Keep in mind, even when a thread is really polite and all in the west, we don't get feed back either. We had to wait several months and then a Q&A life letter before we got a "Sorry not possible currently" with the thread about Au Ra and
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samcaesar View Post
    I dunno, to be honest, maybe if SE actually responded to threads, so people notice the big shiny crown on a topic they were gonna make a post about. It won't kill the spam, but I'm sure as heck if people saw community devs actually actively providing feedback on hot issues, it'd several cut down on the spam (Or at least result in the first reply to spammed topics being a link to the dev response).

    Keep in mind, even when a thread is really polite and all in the west, we don't get feed back either. We had to wait several months and then a Q&A life letter before we got a "Sorry not possible currently" with the thread about Au Ra and
    Devs don't speak English. Only people that can communicate with English and other language forums are community reps. There are far more Japanese devs who don't speak English than there are community reps. Thus, the Japanese posts get more responses. That, and the community reps need to run everything by their superiors before they post/give out information. Devs have a lot more freedom.
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  6. #46
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    I think another reason is NA forum everything goes to "Gerneral Discussion" and I read many times ppl said that "they only read general discussion". ^^;

    For example maybe this thread should be started in "Website Feedback & Suggestions"
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  7. #47
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    I suspect the number of replies is about the same it's just the signal to noise ratio in our forums is at least 10x higher than theirs so they [the SE replies] get buried/ignored.

    We really need to cut out the pointless and duplicate threads but it's not going to happen it's just the internet culture here in the west (one which I don't particularly like but there's not much I can do about it)
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    Last edited by OJ191; 08-06-2015 at 03:51 PM.

  8. #48
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    Oj Au
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Guys stop treating us and yourself as a garbage.
    We western people have our good sides too lol. SE community sometimes act like Japanese players are some gods.

    Mkay, they probably use their brains before they start making new threads which is nice, but it is not only our fault. There were lots of good, big threads with nice suggestions that never got repplies and then there was one thread with <put useless glamour suggestion here> that got dev repply imediately. Fault is on both sides.

    But yeah.. many good suggestions here got put down becuase of people like "I don't need this so it is useless suggestion, I don't care if other people want it, SE aim for stuff that I want."
    Japanese culture has it's problems yes, but why bring it up when the western internet culture is by and large the problem here. I agree there are probably some threads that could do with dev replies that don't get them... but how would we even know they havn't already replied to it/a similar suggestion in a different thread. We don't, because our forums are way way way too cluttered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    Devs don't speak English. Only people that can communicate with English and other language forums are community reps. There are far more Japanese devs who don't speak English than there are community reps. Thus, the Japanese posts get more responses. That, and the community reps need to run everything by their superiors before they post/give out information. Devs have a lot more freedom.
    This too
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    Last edited by OJ191; 08-06-2015 at 03:58 PM.

  9. #49
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Devs are japanese, devs respond in japanese. There have been items requested by one side and not the other that have been responded to via the chain of authority. Frequency is easy to explain via sheer mass and language barrier.

    Always interesting to see the weird simplifications and massive generalizations with a side for a culture's popular like of self loathing though.. I think I used to have thick bias on which cultures was "teh best!1", but a number of good history classes and traveling and its all pretty "human". All displaying very human qualities. "Oh they are so nice all the time since ever and ever" "What would you say if this scenario happened?" "Thats horrible!" "Thats a common occurrence in the culture you just spent twenty minutes eating up as the best thing ever" "oh so you think they're bad huh?" "no.. very normal given the circumstances".

    Anyway, if SE was smart - and I do believe having a WoW competing mmo makes them at least capable lol, they'd then be receiving compilations of feedback on all forums not native (which they do). Responding is an extra pain so instead you can feel awesome that they bother with the hassle lol (although, imo, not responding at all would be bad PR - so there is reason beyond being a good dev to respond).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 08-06-2015 at 04:16 PM.

  10. #50
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    Sylvia Valadis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    Devs don't speak English. Only people that can communicate with English and other language forums are community reps. There are far more Japanese devs who don't speak English than there are community reps. Thus, the Japanese posts get more responses. That, and the community reps need to run everything by their superiors before they post/give out information. Devs have a lot more freedom.
    Yes, that's why we have community reps who are suppose to relay information between the community and developers, it's quite literally their job. God only knows why they have to keep a "It's not possible yet" under wraps til a Q&A Live Letter.. And while I'm definitely simplifying the process here, I'm sure it doesn't take too long to translate "Is it possible to make the Au Ra horns an option? - No, it's not possible yet, memory issues are maxed", neither am I aware why incredibly minor information like that needs approval that'd take months to go through. Heck iirc the person even made a thread on the Japanese forums and there was still no dev response.
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