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  1. #971
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration View Post
    I hit a 9k Wildfire ( 6-7k average) with a DRG, HQ Black Truffle Risotto, Battle Litany, and non HQ Dracopot on Savage Faust last night/earlier this morning. My lodestone should be all my current gear...with all that being said, I personally think it has to do with luck on getting Crit DoTs on Lead Shot and OGCDs because I was NOT expecting to damn near break 10k at i186
    Yeah, he said he had no Drg or pot. The 1k I hit with 7.3k Wildfire was basic Risotto only. Not sure if he was in a party or not, but considering he went dry on TP, I'm assuming it was a test dummy. I'll do some more tests today as I only did a couple yesterday and was playing with my rotation a bit. I've seen a few different rotations-- some say to pop Wildfire and first Split Shot, some say after Slug Shot. Still seems to be some debate on the beat rotation. I feel comfortable with using it after Split myself.

    I'd really like to try Savage myself, but everyone says it needs a static and my job doesn't really allow one as my days off and work time can change.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 08-05-2015 at 08:12 PM.

  2. #972
    Player IfritReborn's Avatar
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    Kevvy Alexandros
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiurily View Post

    also, even at 660 sksp i can make it to around 3:50 - 4:00 mark or so, i don't think you should be having tp problems unless you're higher than that somehow w
    Are you aoe'ing? single target? I also run out of tp in a2s that I have to put the rook out Wave 4. There aren't a lot of MCH videos for a2s so knowing what other MCH's do in that fight would be much helpful
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  3. #973
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    Are you aoe'ing? single target? I also run out of tp in a2s that I have to put the rook out Wave 4. There aren't a lot of MCH videos for a2s so knowing what other MCH's do in that fight would be much helpful
    I think they mean just for a single target Dummy Parse that they can go that long.

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    My party comp for A2S - WHM, SCH, DRK, WAR, DRG, MCN, SMN, MNK (in Gobby)

    Wave 2 - DOT things, Rapid Fire - Spread Shot (Invigorate @ <500 TP)

    Wave 3 - Bishop Hypercharged, DOT all the things, then Spread Shot with Reload. Once I burn through my ammo I toss out the Rook + TP until the next wave

    Wave 4 - Bishop - DOT all the things (Gobby last since we debuff it) do a couple Spread Shots and then Promote for MP. Single target to lower any high HP mobs while SMN dots wear down the others.

    Wave 6 - MP Turret - Invigorate should be coming back up.

    Wave 7 - Hypercharged Turret between all dolls - When hypercharge wears off, Rook + TP (Going to need the TP for AOE on Wave 8)

    That's all I have so far. Can only get started into Wave 8 before it goes down hill. (healer pulls aggro, someone dies, just haven't had much practice in that phase yet) I just try not to AOE too much especially when the mobs are already at low health, since I know the SMN/SCH dots will finish off any stragglers, which helps save TP. But in saying that you want to make sure you are making the most of your AOE as well. (buffed with ammo, buffs) But also that you will leave yourself with ammo when you need single target burst and that you arrange it with your other DPS so that they aren't burning all their buffs when you are which weakens the potential on other waves.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 08-05-2015 at 10:20 PM.

  4. #974
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    Odowla's Avatar
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    Odowla Wetae
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Yeah, he said he had no Drg or pot. The 1k I hit with 7.3k Wildfire was basic Risotto only. Not sure if he was in a party or not, but considering he went dry on TP, I'm assuming it was a test dummy. I'll do some more tests today as I only did a couple yesterday and was playing with my rotation a bit. I've seen a few different rotations-- some say to pop Wildfire and first Split Shot, some say after Slug Shot. Still seems to be some debate on the beat rotation. I feel comfortable with using it after Split myself.

    I'd really like to try Savage myself, but everyone says it needs a static and my job doesn't really allow one as my days off and work time can change.
    I got a 9.4k in As3 last night, i got accused of needlessly popping draconian potions >:
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  5. #975
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    I got a 9.4k in As3 last night, i got accused of needlessly popping draconian potions >:
    That's ridiculous

    I'm not sure if it's a network issue on my end or but I think my first Slug Shot is not registering under Wildfire. Even with an HQ Draconian + DRG in my group, I'm hard pressed to reach 8k. I might just have to swap the rotation to Wildfire/Potion instead of Wildfire -> Slug -> Potion
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  6. #976
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Did Faust NM with a Drg and regular Risotto. No pot. Hit 1150 dps, but my highest Wildfire was still only 6500. No exactly sure what's going on with that. I have my buffs up, Reload, get a Slug Shot, pop Rapid Fire and Wildfire then go to town with Split Shot, Slug Shot, Cleaner Shot (with Dismantle), Split Shot, Cleaner Shot, Quick Reload, Split Shot, Slug Shot, while weaving Gauss around, Head Graze, Ricochet and Blank in between. Not sure what else I can do.
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  7. #977
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    Lavieh's Avatar
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    Ellunavi Sevald
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    Sargatanas
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    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by IfritReborn View Post
    Are you aoe'ing? single target? I also run out of tp in a2s that I have to put the rook out Wave 4. There aren't a lot of MCH videos for a2s so knowing what other MCH's do in that fight would be much helpful
    Wave 1 - Pew Pew
    Wave 2 - Drop AoE turret on the north pack. Dot the big guy. Throw out 2-3 Spread shots. ST the rest as to not burn TP
    Wave 3 - Drop AoE turret on main pack. Refresh Hot Shot and Dot the Hardmind(?) the one that runs in from the south. Pop all the things, Wildfire the Hardmind (The one we don't focus first) and Spreadshot. Using Reload/QR/Reassmbled while AoEing and using Invigorate when sub 500 tp. You shouldn't burn through your tp here because this pack dies rather fast.
    Wave 4- Drop AoE in the middle of the pack. Reload comes back up around this time. Hot shot/Dot the walker. Use oGCD's on the walk but AoE even w/ ammo. You don't want to burn the walker too fast so the person in the vehicle can charge.
    Wave 5- Drop the TP turret. Hot Shot/Dot both widows (We focus widows first). Do lame damage to the first widow. CD the second one with full Wildfire combo, save Hypercharge.
    Wave 6- Drop MP Turret on where the hardforgethisname spawns. Hypercharge. Cycle promotion. Either AoE soldier + Hard or assist in STing the soldiers this depends on your DPS. Get healer MP up and then switch back to rook once you get to the walker > Rook.
    Wave 7 - DoT 2x Adds while buffing. Unload WF combo on the first Jagd doll. Single target the other one. I'd recommend rook since you will be getting a bit more deeps from focusing the one with vuln stacks.
    Wave 8- Drop AoE turret on pack. Hypercharge. Cycle Promotion. Pop CDs on the off focused Hard??? and AoE. Drop TP Turret once both hardgoblins are almost dead. Restore some TP.
    Wave 9- I'm in the walker here... so Idk. At the end I use a fill WF combo after I self-destruct on the highest hp Widow.

    We do SCH in the walker until Double Jagd > DRG in walker till final > MCH in walker for the final phase. So our DPS on the 2x Widow is faster than other groups.
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  8. #978
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    Nibiria Kaliraphel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 60
    http://youtu.be/SXIHJVO2x6c Does anyone see any major mistakes in this video not listed in the description? I can't seem to push for that final ~70 dps I need, and this is the only thread where people seem to be pointing out mistakes. The highest I've parsed with this setup (law chest, prototype everything else left side and same right side mix as Aiurily) is 1076, which makes me feel like I'm missing something.
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  9. #979
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    Sasori Redsand
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    I have my buffs up, Reload, get a Slug Shot, pop Rapid Fire
    Try not using Rapid Fire until after you use the first Cleaner Shot because Reloading will eliminate Slug/Clean cast times and popping Rapid Fire with Reload is shooting yourself in the foot.

    My Opener: HC > Buffs > Hot Shot > Potion > Lead Shot > Quick Reload > Split > Wildfire* + Reload > Slug > Reassemble + Clean > Rapid Fire + Ricochet > Split + Gauss Round > Slug + Head Graze > Clean + Blank > Drop Gauss Barrel (for an auto attack and to reapply Hot Shot without the cast)

    Wildfire* - My reason for delaying this until AFTER the first Split is because of server ticks and to ensure I can squeeze out an extra auto attack with those extra 3-4seconds
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    Last edited by BannedatRegistration; 08-06-2015 at 06:04 AM. Reason: Forgot the thing with the thing
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  10. #980
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    Themis's Avatar
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BannedatRegistration View Post
    Try not using Rapid Fire until after you use the first Cleaner Shot because Reloading will eliminate Slug/Clean cast times and popping Rapid Fire with Reload is shooting yourself in the foot.

    My Opener: HC > Buffs > Hot Shot > Potion > Lead Shot > Quick Reload > Split > Wildfire* + Reload > Slug > Reassemble + Clean > Rapid Fire + Ricochet > Split + Gauss Round > Slug + Head Graze > Clean + Blank > Drop Gauss Barrel (for an auto attack and to reapply Hot Shot without the cast)

    Wildfire* - My reason for delaying this until AFTER the first Split is because of server ticks to ensure I can squeeze out an extra auto attack with those extra 3-4seconds
    You do realise that you have no autoattacks whilst Gauss Barrel is equipped?
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