[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Ilean]

but it does effect him and all others, a game has a set goal/time line for everyone to hit level, when some are cheating or not cheating according to yoshi then some can zoom levels, while others are either given a choice to join the crowd of cheaters, or get pushed aside and level slowly and correctly, and on top of that his work will be for nothing cause big deal it won't mean anything. it's called progression, most people in mmo's strive on it, it's why they play. once u stop progressing on a character it no longer can be called fun to play.

he doesn't sound like a nazis, u sound like someone who thinks they can rule in a bubble. lol if everyone is pl'ing or everyone is expecting to be pl'd it effects all. for one it will take work for most people to get pl's, i make my own groups for party grinds, but i don't have duel box, and i don't know people willing to waste hours to pocket heal me and a party all day. this made the last years of ffxi kinda annoying, shouting for 100k hour healers to go along with a group. it's like vent, from 10years ago to now everyone is expected to use vent for stuff, u start a dungeon run on some mmo's and it's like what's the vent? no vent? no pl?

also pl'ing in reality isn't being done by friends trying to catch people up to them, cause then level sync would be fine. right? cap people together at same levels wala. other then that it is by any and all means cheating, u throw money at it, with multi pc's and accounts to duel box(np for se cause u paying them) or you have real life friends to do it, or take turns going afk while someone pl's the group, i've done this a few levels and it was boring ...sit there afk ..this isn't playing a game. it sounds fair to me to say that it does effect us all in some shapes or forms. no one wants to walk past your big bad bubble rocking out like you worked anyway near as hard as half the other players on the server.


also to add how do u seperate pl'ing and duel boxing to be different then buying gil, or buying a made account or even botting? what is different? nothing outside that yoshi said it is ok to do.

TL;DR
except for the first few lines

Progress your character, do your stuff.

Stop OCDing about what others do or do not. If you can't, you are damaged «inside» «head».

Is "live and let die" such a hard to grasp concept?

[weeble]

TL;DR
except for the first few lines

Progress your character, do your stuff.

Stop OCDing about what others do or do not. If you can't, you are damaged «inside» «head».

Is "live and let die" such a hard to grasp concept?

it is cause u'r just nit picking what is okay an what is not, i'm sure u'r in the threads for hnm's to be pops cause no one wants to get outclaimed by bots. so lets remove hnm's or how to claim right because people cheating? what next i need to buy my account to catch up to your pl'ing. what u say has nothing to do with anything, it is either play the game or don't. and my head ...is very fine thank you. don't insult cause theres a loop hole for you that makes u feel like your not cheating. an lol i can't lie i loved pl's in my groups in ffxi, don't make it right. create a system that is easier to level without them if the idea is let them level faster, don't go and give a really retarted way to do it.

also paying to get pl or getting pl is no different ...u'r saying is people with friends willing to are more relevant to the process then paying some one 20bucks, or paying them 100k gils witch say is the same thing lol. plus in all reality these situations aren't what happens, yeah u level up a friend no biggy few hours here and there. then there is players duel boxing class after class. threes a thin line in what is right and wrong there.

[Ilean]

it is cause u'r just nit picking what is okay an what is not, i'm sure u'r in the threads for hnm's to be pops cause no one wants to get outclaimed by bots. so lets remove hnm's or how to claim right because people cheating? what next i need to buy my account to catch up to your pl'ing. what u say has nothing to do with anything, it is either play the game or don't. and my head ...is very fine thank you. don't insult cause theres a loop hole for you that makes u feel like your not cheating. an lol i can't lie i loved pl's in my groups in ffxi, don't make it right. create a system that is easier to level without them if the idea is let them level faster, don't go and give a really retarted way to do it.

also paying to get pl or getting pl is no different ...u'r saying is people with friends willing to are more relevant to the process then paying some one 20bucks, or paying them 100k gils witch say is the same thing lol. plus in all reality these situations aren't what happens, yeah u level up a friend no biggy few hours here and there. then there is players duel boxing class after class. threes a thin line in what is right and wrong there.

TL;DR again but for 3 lines

I do no tell what is right or wrong. IMO everything that doesn't (incoming caps) DIRECTLY interfere with my ability to play the game the way I want to is right. Unlike you, there isn't a nagging voice in my head hurting me because some people in some zone are all PLing themselves to death.

Also bots are the problem, not HNMs. If SE can't handle bots, they can *gasp* give us instanced alternative so we can enjoy HNM fights and drops.

Pathetic how some people can't enjoy themselves unless the whole world ticks their way.

Pathetic.

[weeble]

TL;DR again but for 3 lines

I do no tell what is right or wrong. IMO everything that doesn't (incoming caps) DIRECTLY interfere with my ability to play the game the way I want to is right. Unlike you, there isn't a nagging voice in my head hurting me because some people in some zone are all PLing themselves to death.

Also bots are the problem, not HNMs. If SE can't handle bots, they can *gasp* give us instanced alternative so we can enjoy HNM fights and drops.

Pathetic how some people can't enjoy themselves unless the whole world ticks their way.

Pathetic.

my way? it's called a game, if the game is meant to be duel boxed or pl's then the system made should be i can create 3 different classes like in final fantasy 13 and control all 3 myself in game. or if it's meant to pocket heal people all day then make it so, give me a way to heal myself all day. gw2 removed main healers ...that way everyone can self heal and no one is frustrated that they don't have a pocket heal, get it not everyone has pocket heals. see how intuitive that is, a system change that directly is created to create a equilibrium from the players.

and yes bots are cheating, and most likely if u didn't bot u didn't have a hnmls, witch means many were forced to do it, see that a system again made to force players to play or be pushed aside. that DIRECTLY interfere with all our ability to play the game the right way. is all basically the same thing, only this ones ok cause it's a easy way for se to make extra cash on extra accounts without that many people complaining. again i always welcomed a pl to my party in ffxi, in warhammer it was pretty much the only way i leveled after my first toon.and every public quest and zone was empty from then on out in that game. but ffxi had a better system, just lower u'rself with a sync and u can get sp with your friends that are lower. it don't effect anyone that isn't using it as a mainstream and everyday thing.

and yeah nother tl,dr don't know if that means u not even reading what i typing but lol then there isn't really a point to typing any more u'r just repeating the same thing over and over. and then u add an insult to the bottom of it all. i think it's your head that needs fixing.

[Ilean]

my way? it's called a game, if the game is meant to be duel boxed or pl's then the system made should be i can create 3 different classes like in final fantasy 13 and control all 3 myself in game. or if it's meant to pocket heal people all day then make it so, give me a way to heal myself all day. gw2 removed main healers ...that way everyone can self heal and no one is frustrated that they don't have a pocket heal, get it not everyone has pocket heals. see how intuitive that is, a system change that directly is created to create a equilibrium from the players.

and yes bots are cheating, and most likely if u didn't bot u didn't have a hnmls, witch means many were forced to do it, see that a system again made to force players to play or be pushed aside. that DIRECTLY interfere with all our ability to play the game the right way. is all basically the same thing, only this ones ok cause it's a easy way for se to make extra cash on extra accounts without that many people complaining. again i always welcomed a pl to my party in ffxi, in warhammer it was pretty much the only way i leveled after my first toon. but ffxi had a better system, just lower u'rself with a sync and u can get sp with your friends that are lower. it don't effect anyone that isn't using it as a mainstream and everyday thing.

and yeah nother tl,dr don't know if that means u not even reading what i typing but lol then there isn't really a point to typing any more u'r just repeating the same thing over and over. and then u add an insult to the bottom of it all. i think it's your head that needs fixing.

TL;DR but 3 lines

AFAIK SE doesn't want the game being run more than once in a single OS. Since they don't block more than 1 session from the same IP (hello NAT!) or more than 1 account from one credit card it would seem they are OK with it.

*snicker*

So it bothers you that some people have more than one account, huh?

lawl

[weeble]

TL;DR but 3 lines

AFAIK SE doesn't want the game being run more than once in a single OS. Since they don't block more than 1 session from the same IP (hello NAT!) or more than 1 account from one credit card it would seem they are OK with it.

*snicker*

So it bothers you that some people have more than one account, huh?

lawl

no no, the hole point of this whole thread is that they should remove pl'ing as a need and to add a level sync like in ffxi, there were still pl'ing in ffxi even with it but it wasn't needed for one and the real players didn't have to do it. also real friends could level together, and rank 70's could join a rank 40 if he wanted to. it created lots of choices ...where as pl'ing removes choices it creates a means where we are all at the one same spot that yeilds the fastest respawn while someone else is killing all the mobs an your afk. it's a better choice in my opinion an like the op has stated in 9pages of post.

pl's aren't playing the game, they are shortcuts to achieving a max player or players the easiest way possible, and everyone leans towards the easiest route, they are like lightning to the ground.

[Zenaku]

no no, the hole point of this whole thread is that they should remove pl'ing as a need and to add a level sync like in ffxi, there were still pl'ing in ffxi even with it but it wasn't needed for one and the real players didn't have to do it. also real friends could level together, and rank 70's could join a rank 40 if he wanted to. it created lots of choices ...where as pl'ing removes choices it creates a means where we are all at the one same spot that yeilds the fastest respawn while someone else is killing all the mobs an your afk. it's a better choice in my opinion an like the op has stated in 9pages of post.

pl's aren't playing the game, they are shortcuts to achieving a max player or players the easiest way possible, and everyone leans towards the easiest route, they are like lightning to the ground.

People don't care if you give them facts up front they only care when the patch hit live and they make 10-20 topic complain about the same issue we are now that how people are when they see a topic they read and all they have to say about it is "QQ" Go back to FFXI "Troll" they don't even care if this issue would mess up there gameplay they want to see it for themselfs. They don't get the point of the forums is to complain and talk about the issue that why there a dev tag for this "Dev1026" it's to tell yoshi-p that this may not work out and if he overlook at his work again and goes ok your right let fix it.

Even if we get 1week delay to fix the issue it's better then waiting 1-2month of him working at it again when he could use that time to make 1.20 patch. that how i see it it happen in every dam patch we have to make a new patch to fix issue like leves giving low sp? i thought he said that was not the main way of level up so it should not give a lot of sp. 10-20 + topics and they change it to give more SP.

Let's wait for the patch if it does come with issue yoshi-p would change it if not then w/e i guess everyone would get max level less then 1month. Then again he said he want people to get Max level within 3month of work lol or something like that.