[dev1026] Please reconsider level sync "Then allowing power leveling"

[Ilean]

Everyday in Ul'dah "Powerlevel {Can i have it} 150K in hour /tell

or

Level sync party "Do you need it" Level 25 3/8 Powerlevel with us

and by powerlevel i mean just a person that heals not kills your mobs

sorry but i like that over someone killing your mobs so you can cheat yourself to max level. Yoshi-p really need to rethink this he may not find it as a cheat but most players do it's not helping others party together it making them just solo even more. He even lowering the mob poptime which mean you can PL even better -.- this is just a joke and he should really think about it before releasing this patch.

but i'll see it once it goes live 1-2week in the patch we see 10+ topic about the same or new issue this system brought to the table.

Why would you care how others play or what they spend their gil at? /shrug

/sigh... gameplay nazis...

Stupid people who think they are holy enough to decide how others should play... Each of us is free to build a bubble out of other people who think and play alike. If you find yourself concerned with stuff other people do that doesn't affect you directly you should go see a shrink.

[weeble]

Why would you care how others play or what they spend their gil at? /shrug

/sigh... gameplay nazis...

Stupid people who think they are holy enough to decide how others should play... Each of us is free to build a bubble out of other people who think and play alike. If you find yourself concerned with stuff other people do that doesn't affect you directly you should go see a shrink.

but it does effect him and all others, a game has a set goal/time line for everyone to hit level, when some are cheating or not cheating according to yoshi then some can zoom levels, while others are either given a choice to join the crowd of cheaters, or get pushed aside and level slowly and correctly, and on top of that his work will be for nothing cause big deal it won't mean anything. it's called progression, most people in mmo's strive on it, it's why they play. once u stop progressing on a character it no longer can be called fun to play.

he doesn't sound like a nazis, u sound like someone who thinks they can rule in a bubble. lol if everyone is pl'ing or everyone is expecting to be pl'd it effects all. for one it will take work for most people to get pl's, i make my own groups for party grinds, but i don't have duel box, and i don't know people willing to waste hours to pocket heal me and a party all day. this made the last years of ffxi kinda annoying, shouting for 100k hour healers to go along with a group. it's like vent, from 10years ago to now everyone is expected to use vent for stuff, u start a dungeon run on some mmo's and it's like what's the vent? no vent? no pl?

also pl'ing in reality isn't being done by friends trying to catch people up to them, cause then level sync would be fine. right? cap people together at same levels wala. other then that it is by any and all means cheating, u throw money at it, with multi pc's and accounts to duel box(np for se cause u paying them) or you have real life friends to do it, or take turns going afk while someone pl's the group, i've done this a few levels and it was boring ...sit there afk ..this isn't playing a game. it sounds fair to me to say that it does effect us all in some shapes or forms. no one wants to walk past your big bad bubble rocking out like you worked anyway near as hard as half the other players on the server.


also to add how do u seperate pl'ing and duel boxing to be different then buying gil, or buying a made account or even botting? what is different? nothing outside that yoshi said it is ok to do.

[Rhomagus]

I would actually like level sync mixed with the new claiming system. It opens up camps and SP so not everyone is monopolizing raptors and such. Put in with that the same gear adjustment that XI had and I'd be happy.

I still support Naoki Yoshida's recent letter though, but I don't think level sync is a bad idea.

[Pyrix]

You can't cheat yourself to max level, most power leveling doesn't go farther than maybe 25.

[weeble]

also might i add that my last time in ants in copperbells i had a real party made and in came a group of 5-7people with 1 archer rank 50, they cleared all the ants and left us with nothing. yes the worse part was they was rude enough to over camp us, but either way if it stays that way everyone will be doing it that way. it was one thing that a healer healed everyone in ffxi out of party, it was 1 person ...and the rest of group still killed, u either didn't have a healer in the party or he was bored and maybe nuked banish or whatever instead. this is everyone afk but one, total opposite.

and lmao k last thing so i can stop tldr ...we can't heal out of party for the nm's in the game, simple concept would probably be because it is tooo easy and is cheating. same thing, but is okay for grinding for whatever reason. ....though lol they are adding a different targeting system, but it was in place at the moment.

yes for level syncs and no thanks for a game full of pl's. ty. and i'll stop posting in this thread now, ... maybe.

[Felis]

I didn't play FF XI and I don't know this level sync, but how about it would be like the r40 char killing with a r20 party r25 enemys get his stats calculated down to r25 (or r20) but get the same exp like every another r40 char killing r25 enemys without calculated down stats?

[Zenaku]

I didn't play FF XI and I don't know this level sync, but how about it would be like the r40 char killing with a r20 party r25 enemys get his stats calculated down to r25 (or r20) but get the same exp like every another r40 char killing r25 enemys without calculated down stats?

Let's say your level 40 and you going to party with a friend who level 20. Your gear/stats would be calculated down to a level 20. Seeing how the gear now work about the same as FFXI level-sync or even better for that matter that half the work done. The system allow a rank 40 to party with a level 20 and get the same amount of EXP.

But i guess that where other issue start party would level sync to area that only give best EXP but that could easy be fix if they do the system right. Fixing that is better then allowing everyone to powerlevel each other seeing 8 people 7 on follow and 1 person attack all mobs then the rank 50 kill them all and each person in the party get 1-20 less then 1hour is not a good system to me.


@RabidSquirrel it's nice to have someone talk about the issue and explain why it a bad idea this was the point of the topic to talk about why or why not is a good idea what SE is doing.

I hope dev read this and we can get something from yoshi-p on who he going to deal with this issue. But from what he said it seem he does not care and allowing people do this. But i guess he does not understand that all players would do this to get max level asap. i think it best to fix this now then waste more time on it later. when he could be doing work on the other patch this is the reason this game is not done yet due to everyone complain about the patch then he have to work on making a new patch to fix issue about that patch.

[RabidSquirrel]

I'll say right now that I didn't read the entire ten pages of posts, but wow. I am speechless. Yoshi, what are you doing??

I'm sure someone in this thread as mentioned it, but look at what Abyssea power leveling has done to FFXI. You never find parties above level 30 because everyone just parties to 30 and then pays for power leveling groups to 90. It's terrible.

I'd much rather have level sync.

[Charismatic]

I'll say right now that I didn't read the entire ten pages of posts, but wow. I am speechless. Yoshi, what are you doing??

I'm sure someone in this thread as mentioned it, but look at what Abyssea power leveling has done to FFXI. You never find parties above level 30 because everyone just parties to 30 and then pays for power leveling groups to 90. It's terrible.

I'd much rather have level sync.

At first it won't be like this in FFXIV and the other folks are going to be saying "see it isn't that bad" but this time next year it'll be PL all day erreday.