Tank DPS Comparison Video

[Phoenicia]

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No body is writing off the whole TP thing. But those that are making it a problem are exaggerating.

Whither you have PLD/WAR, DRK/WAR, PLD/DRK, the TP issue is present. Ask your NIN/AST/BRD/MCH to give you TP earlier. Only combo that has no worries over tank TP is WAR/WAR. And no body is running double jobs.

When NIN TP costs got nerfed in 2.45, most competitive raid groups gave Goad priority to PLD. NIN had the exact same TP time as MNK and DRG so they wanted the bards to sing for TP. It's a team game after all.

If your team doesn't want to adjust to its own setup, then they are stupid. Simple as that. Singing TP for your tanks is as much of a DPS increase to the tanks as it is for the DPS. DPS will start regaining TP at the 400 mark instead of right before they're starved and strugging with that TP tick is a DPS increase. BRD can time his songs so he doesn't lose DPS by singing during jumps, further boosting those grace periods' TP regen. Just work around what you have.

WAR never runs out of TP on a single target. People wouldn't cry if WAR wasn't given Equilibrium, which is what this is all about. People think WAR's TP is great because of Equilibrium. (Watch the 5 minute parse, WAR didn't use Equilibrium nor touch it). WAR has 0 TP GCDs and is pacified for 5 seconds every 1.5 minutes. That pacification is a DPS loss too! If WAR wasn't given Equilibrium, no body would've even noticed that WAR has no TP issues.

ALL jobs except WAR run out of TP, even the ones that have Invigorate. Melee run out on average at 3:30. BRD (And MCH I guess?) last a lot shorter. A BRD or MCH can start singing slightly earlier in shorter bursts so that everyone gets TP before they completely dry and starve. Again, just coordinate with your teammates.

[BadRNG]

Dont warrior tanks also have an issue with TP on AS2?

Maybe? Depending on their overpower use, I'd assume. It's not really the same comparison since we were talking about single target TP drain (as DRK has no aoe-tp skills).

If you wanted to compare DRK/WAR aoe sustainability it's an odd situation, WAR definitely falls off a cliff fast but DRK will as well if they aren't actively getting hit constantly (like in stupid AS2 with all the stuns). Or another way to put it, WAR has better OT aoe potential but DRK has better MTing aoe potential. The only benefit WAR has there is that if it is highly beneficial for them to be actively spamming Overpower for some reason, then it's likely true for the other TP aoe users, so singing/turret is a bit more justified.

No body is writing off the whole TP thing. But those that are making it a problem are exaggerating.

It's really funny you say this when the post literally above you is saying you can write it off all together.

SirTaint already addressed rest of your points, so not going to rehash.