This is absolutely ridiculous (DPS CHECK RANT)

[Ashkendor]

you try being a dps, bruh. its not as easy as it is to complain about it.

Think about why its difficult: healers and tanks have one other to be synergistic with. DPS have three others. Three other completely different mindsets, playstyles, approaches, and experiences. This is also part of the reason why FC/static groups move forward more than PUGs. They are used to each other and the way they think. BIS EX is so much more than a cookie cutter instruction and is very often overlooked on its complexity.

This doesn't explain how I can put out more damage on my Paladin in Shield Oath than some DPS players do. DPS don't have to synergize with each other to get their job done. They follow mechanics (just like the tanks and healers do, shocker) and they hit the boss. When I'm on a melee, I don't even look in the ranged dps' direction unless we need to perform a mechanic together. When I'm on a ranged, I don't take much note of what the melee are doing unless we need to perform a mechanic together. DPS don't need to know what each other are thinking in order to dodge mechanics and do their rotations. Honestly, the reason why static groups tend to move forward more quickly than PUGs is simple - hours of practice and voice communication.

"Synergizing" isn't a thing here; it's just a word you've slapped on it, and it's no excuse for putting out bad DPS. Bad DPS is caused by not knowing the mechanics, not knowing your rotation, or not having your gear set up properly. All three of these are easy fixes, but the problem is that many players can't take constructive criticism. Even if you offer nicely to help someone who isn't putting up the numbers, it's even money that they'll just lose their shit and scream "Don't tell me how to play my class, elitist scum!!" instead of listening to your advice.

As far as Bismarck EX, mechanically speaking it's the easiest EX primal. That DPS check is real, though.

[Sapphic]

This doesn't explain how I can put out more damage on my Paladin in Shield Oath than some DPS players do.

Nerf PLD! PLD DPS OP! They do moar damage than me even when I roll my face over the keyboard from left to right and not right to left! pleeze fix SE!

XD

[Ashkendor]

It will be a problem later though. Before the coil came to DF, you occasionally ran into some very cutthroat people who would kick and replace as necessary until they got the team to do the job. It became standard practice, weeded out the weak, and was kinda built into the PF etiquette of the end game raids. Once that stuff hits DF, though, it's not so easy to boot people. You can get reported for it.

I don't think kicking and replacing a problem player is cutthroat at all. If one person is Doin It Wrong™ and keeping the other seven people from achieving their shared goal (whether that be learning, clearing, or farming), then clearly either something has to give or you simply disband the party and start over. I'm all for teaching people content, but some people don't want to be taught. In order to learn to do it right first you have to admit that you were doing it wrong in the first place and there are plenty of people out there that have a serious problem with that. When you've wiped several times to the same thing despite telling someone how to do it correctly, you have to ask yourself if you think they're going to improve. Why would I bash my head against the encounter with a team that can't do the job when I could replace one person and have a team that can do it?

As far as kicking from DF goes, GM's have said in the past that a difference in playstyle is a legitimate reason to remove someone from a duty. If someone's "playstyle" is "I don't care about DPS, don't tell me how to play my class," the other seven people are perfectly within their right to vote kick if they feel that person is holding the rest of them back from completing the duty. The kicked person can report all they like but unless there was some other kind of abuse (cursing them out before kicking them, etc) I don't see how anything can really be done about it.

Nerf PLD! PLD DPS OP! They do moar damage than me even when I roll my face over the keyboard from left to right and not right to left! pleeze fix SE!

XD

Roll up & down, double your damage. The keyboard is shorter that way, more rolls per second! :3

[Sapphic]

I don't think kicking and replacing a problem player is cutthroat at all.

Thing is, they wouldn't have any problems kicking a tank that constantly loses enmity or a healer that cannot keep the tank alive.

Roll up & down, double your damage. The keyboard is shorter that way, more rolls per second! :3

I tried getting my dogs to jump up and down on the keyboard, but as they full grown Malamutes they broke they keyboard! PLEEZE SE nref Malamutes, they break my k/board when I trying to get them to dps for me! :P

[Mikhaill]

This doesn't explain how I can put out more damage on my Paladin in Shield Oath than some DPS players do.

Yeah, even with the lamest of DPS, I'm sure as a PLD your 200 DPS is better than any other crappy DPS out there.
That's a strong comparison. Just wanted to pull this sentence out because I found it a bit funny lol.

Also waiting for a the Yoshida "Git Gud" pic, probably missed it around here somewhere. x;