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  1. #51
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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 23
    Quote Originally Posted by RosaBlanche View Post
    honestly i dont see any difference since kiting wasnt my style, the way i see it it's just SE telling bards "stop running around with the boss like a noob while all mages get spell interruptions and in exchange, we'll give you 30% more damage. Deal?"

    to wich i reply "Awesome! I'll take it!"

    one less bard kiting is always a good thing
    Not sure what your tank is doing if bard have to kite the boss... But kiting can be a good thing, once I soloed Chimera in Cutters Cry by kiting the boss around the arena from 50% till death without being hit once. And obviously when soloing something like levequests kiting helps too. If you prefer to stand rooted then the bard gives nothing that BLM can't do with 150% more efficiency.
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  2. #52
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    Tyrial's Avatar
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    Not sure what your tank is doing if bard have to kite the boss... But kiting can be a good thing, once I soloed Chimera in Cutters Cry by kiting the boss around the arena from 50% till death without being hit once. And obviously when soloing something like levequests kiting helps too. If you prefer to stand rooted then the bard gives nothing that BLM can't do with 150% more efficiency.
    Except you have the option to turn it off and still DPS while you move if you need to. We're not talking absolutes here. DPS increase if you choose to turn your "DPS stance" on, DPS lost for mobility if you deem the situation requires you to be mobile.
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  3. #53
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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Unless you played BRD like a needlessly hyperactive bunny, there's no difference in playstyle with WM.
    Coming from a BRD main in 2.0, WM definitely slows down their pacing and can lead to brief pauses where you can't do anything at all because you doubled up oGCDs/bloodletters inbetween each weapon skill, or having to delay a oGCD.

    ...And hardcasting straight shot without the 100% crit bonus when you have the instant cast buff/100% crit active.
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  4. #54
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    AlphaSonic's Avatar
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    Character
    Shaartis Laggal
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Wut? Positionals to a BLM? All the damage gained with a positional you'd lose it running from one side of the room to the other side...
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  5. #55
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    vp_cmc's Avatar
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    Character
    Tee Hee
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    I like how people criticise bards when they have it 50 lvl in the best case.

    My main issue with WM is that it interferes with Blood Letter procs. If my Blood Letter procs are when I don't have any other cooldowns about to pop, it's ok, my dps is good. If I don't have any BL procs when I don't have other CD-s, but they start to proc when I have to use CDs, I lose in either case if I delay BL or delay CD or delay GCD.
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  6. #56
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    Heskett's Avatar
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    Character
    Mili Brand
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xLucia View Post
    I actually beat other dps frequently without it (based on aggro meter, as I don't use a parser)
    This is never an accurate way of showcasing how much DPS you do. As a Bard, you must know that abilities such as Quelling Strikes exist, yes?
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  7. #57
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    EdwinLi's Avatar
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    Edwin Li
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Unless you played BRD like a needlessly hyperactive bunny, there's no difference in playstyle with WM.
    That was mostly the case for most Bards I've seen playing Bards before 3.0.

    They couldn't seem to stay still for 5 seconds without wanting to move side by side for no reason in a completely safe spot when the boss isn't randomly targeting them.

    It felt like back in 2.X era people only played bard because they can run around like a hyperactive bunny with little care about their DPS while complaining Bard DPS was too low.

    For me Bard gameplay hardly changed beyond a 1.5 or less cast timer. Also We get more weaving skills to put between the basic skills like Empyreal Arrow which is a easy 3K or more damage with Barrage.
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  8. #58
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Wut? Positionals to a BLM? All the damage gained with a positional you'd lose it running from one side of the room to the other side...
    Not if you could move while casting. Also you don't have to move anymore than one step to the side if you are positioned right.
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  9. #59
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    Malevicton's Avatar
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Not if you could move while casting. Also you don't have to move anymore than one step to the side if you are positioned right.
    Oh... so you just want everything to be a melee?
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  10. #60
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    xLucia's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Yuka Nisah
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Heskett View Post
    This is never an accurate way of showcasing how much DPS you do. As a Bard, you must know that abilities such as Quelling Strikes exist, yes?
    I know about Quelling strikes. I never overaggro the tank

    I just use the aggro bar as some sort of a reference for how I'm doing since doing damage creates threat/emnity aswell. I've had ppl tell me that the aggro bar is a way to see how ur damage compares to someone else's. Not entirely sure how much of that is true though. But whatever :P
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    Last edited by xLucia; 08-03-2015 at 02:19 AM.

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