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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Violet Flower
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 23

    I've permanently solved The Wanderer's Minuet problem...

    ...by not playing the bard anymore.
    Thank you SE for ruining one of my favourite jobs. Sure, I can turn it off and play like before but having a significant damage penalty is even less fun.
    If I want to cast something I just switch to BLM for the same gameplay style but much more damage.
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Or you could stop being Chicken Little (The sky is falling!) and actually adjust to the changes that were made to your job.
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    Iselia Shadowsun
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    Or you could stop being Chicken Little (The sky is falling!) and actually adjust to the changes that were made to your job.
    Or play Summoner, because its almost as free as the 2.x BRD playstyle.

    Seriously, Wanderer's Minuet and the equivalent of MCH are terrible design decisions just to force players to have to do boss mechanics exactly like a BLM.
    I don't play BRD much, just leveling it to 60 and barely played it during 2.0 but I can easily understand how people don't want to play bow mage.

    Squenix messed up big time and are simply making every class too similar
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    Still Sparrow
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    Or play Summoner, because its almost as free as the 2.x BRD playstyle.

    Seriously, Wanderer's Minuet and the equivalent of MCH are terrible design decisions just to force players to have to do boss mechanics exactly like a BLM.
    I don't play BRD much, just leveling it to 60 and barely played it during 2.0 but I can easily understand how people don't want to play bow mage.

    Squenix messed up big time and are simply making every class too similar
    sorry, but have you played a BLM? their cast times are almost twice as long, the loss of mobility from GB/WM is next to nothing compared to what BLMs have to deal with. heck, a lot of the time in gauss barrel you have full mobility anyway due to procs/ammo. you can leave GB/WM on 98% of the time with no problems whatsoever due to how lenient they are.

    it isn't even comparable to BLM's lack of mobility, when on top of long cast times they have enochian, punishing movement even further.
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    Last edited by Stormsoul; 08-03-2015 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsun View Post
    Squenix messed up big time and are simply making every class too similar
    Bards complained that their damage was lower than the other DPS and wanted it to be increased. That obviously meant hindering their mobility. You obviously weren't going to get your DPS buffed while retaining the best survivability in the game.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilthas View Post
    Bards complained that their damage was lower than the other DPS and wanted it to be increased. That obviously meant hindering their mobility. You obviously weren't going to get your DPS buffed while retaining the best survivability in the game.
    Likewise, you can't just throw in a stance at lv52 and call it done.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Likewise, you can't just throw in a stance at lv52 and call it done.
    And they didn't. They gave us three new attacks that only work while in said stance. But, as a reminder of what you really should be concerned about, they also gave us a new support song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Likewise, you can't just throw in a stance at lv52 and call it done.
    You mean like they did with WAR at 30 with Defiance and at 52 with Deliverance? We only get special abilities for each stance later too.

    Wanderer's Minuet only has a problem if Bard DPS isn't noticeably increased. If it is, then your mobility is the price to pay for increased DPS.

    We all know that what Bards really wanted was to have equivalent DPS as the other classes while keeping their mobility (and higher survivability) intact. Anyone that cares about class balance knew that could never happen.
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Bard Lv 70
    No thanks. I have a BLM and when BRD plays just like it but with far less damage, then what's the point in even playing it?
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    Hayward Timberwolf
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    No thanks. I have a BLM and when BRD plays just like it but with far less damage, then what's the point in even playing it?
    Oh, I don't know. Because you supposedly loved the job and weren't interested in being the at the top of some joker's parser.

    Hope your ankle's OK from jumping off the 2.0 Bard Bandwagon, though.
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