Crafting is dead

[Katlyna]

But you are right the melds are really aggressive. You could skimp some and do heavier mainhand/offhand melding. But that doesn't make sense as they are not shared.

[Talia_Hailwind]

Just watched the new SAO abridged episode, I think this sums up the work you have to put into crafting in FF14 pretty well.

https://youtu.be/Ak8cY6Cd63k?t=11m21s

[Ossom]

As Gathers and Crafters you guys should definitely use garlandtools.org, it contains the HQ stats and the max possible melded stats for gear that hasn't even been made yet. It tells you where to get every single item in the game including the favor items, etc..

Never even had to guess or experiment on where to get the favor items. Also, IMHO the 180 Gear is the biggest waste of time and scrips. I already have the 170 Body and Hat made for Weaver and if the Ooids and other item prices keep dropping than getting the 180 gear becomes less and less worth it. The only thing I don't like about the system right now is the shear amount of mining/botany you have to do to get the favor items. Can go out there for 4-6 hours just to get the materials for one piece of gear. Other than that and the fact DoW/DoM gear is locked behind red scrips, I think everything else is fine. Maybe they should have included some crafted gather gear but w/e

[Roth_Trailfinder]

IMHO the 180 Gear is the biggest waste of time and scrips.

As someone who intends to spend the first six weeks of 3.05 gathering Red Gatherer Tokens for the Miner/Botany MH tools, which are not available through crafting only these Tokens, are you suggesting I hold on to the Red Crafter Tokens for when I'm gathering the Ooids and such? I'd been leaning towards getting the MH tools for a couple crafting classes (LTW definitely, not sure about WVN or CRP or GSM) but I'd also been considering saving the RCT for materials when I start using Favors.

[Rath]

I already have the 170 Body and Hat made for Weaver and if the Ooids and other item prices keep dropping than getting the 180 gear becomes less and less worth it.

I had some leftover ooids on the MB at 750k just to store them really. They sold. As did my 3 HQ Heavensnuts that were listed at 1mil each. The prices actually appear to be going up as some crafters attempt to gathers these themselves. They then say F it and buy them off the MB.

This may lead to more people listing them to sell, causing the price to drop again, but right now prices are going up and not down.

[Thrustie]

I haven't seen anything approaching a reasonable price for favor mats yet. The minimum seems to be 300k per. Which means you're paying 6m per mat and 18/24m to try and craft a full piece. Still prohibitive in my eyes since there's very little ROI in sight.

[Sibyll]

I had some leftover ooids on the MB at 750k just to store them really. They sold. As did my 3 HQ Heavensnuts that were listed at 1mil each. The prices actually appear to be going up as some crafters attempt to gathers these themselves. They then say F it and buy them off the MB.

This may lead to more people listing them to sell, causing the price to drop again, but right now prices are going up and not down.

The funny thing is that even if you used only rare mats with their 3 Rowena Crafting Token price tag you could still acquire a crafted main hand in half the time it would take to get the i180: 4 2* HQ mats = 12 Rowena Tokens; Masterkeep's are 26 tokens. If you do 2 HQ and 2 NQ you could get it in one week if you are able to gather all the mats yourself. Gatherers get the shaft though.

I haven't seen anything approaching a reasonable price for favor mats yet. The minimum seems to be 300k per. Which means you're paying 6m per mat and 18/24m to try and craft a full piece. Still prohibitive in my eyes since there's very little ROI in sight.

I'm at a loss for what a reasonable price for these would be. As it stands it's almost impractical to make any of the new gear with the purpose of selling it unless you've farmed every mat yourself.

[Rath]

The funny thing is that even if you used only rare mats with their 3 Rowena Crafting Token price tag you could still acquire a crafted main hand in half the time it would take to get the i180: 4 2* HQ mats = 12 Rowena Tokens; Masterkeep's are 26 tokens. If you do 2 HQ and 2 NQ you could get it in one week if you are able to gather all the mats yourself. Gatherers get the shaft though.



I'm at a loss for what a reasonable price for these would be. As it stands it's almost impractical to make any of the new gear with the purpose of selling it unless you've farmed every mat yourself.

The guy that bought my ooids made a ring to replace the NQ he made with his mats. I can see it on the MB lol.

[mayonnegg]

Some have been going for 50k on Moogle which is a price I'd be willing to pay, but there's no point buying them cos the equivalent turn in is 200-300k. And when you take into account that the new crafts are borderline pointless, the current prices are just stupid. They need to double or triple the amount of turn-ins per favour for it to become more viable.

[Ossom]

@Beck,

I've bought quite a few of the materials on our server (Adamantoise) for 100k or close to that price. It's not on the Market board because I advertise in PF and my LS's

Actually, I bought one of the HQ (3 instead of 10) mats for 50k on the Market Board, the Bitter Foxglove thing, also I think a few other items sold for sub 100k.

Edits (Sleepy so I', trying to elaborate on my thoughts, sorry)

Also, I have quite a few crafting V materias to put in the gear.

Now I might have stated my previous comment incorrectly, the gatherer gear is worth buying with redscrips because its the only way to get an upgrade at this point. But the 180 Crafter gear is not worth it. Not because of the stats but because of how long it will take you to gear up a class doing that.

If you do 180 gear, you might be able to gear up 2 classes before its time to craft 3 stars.

If you don't focus down one class also, you might end up with no classes that meet the stat requirement for the 3 star crafts when they come out, so I think spreading your red scrips around to like 4-5 different classes while buying the red scrip gear is going to bite you in the butt.