Things I'm starting to hate on AST

[Yhisa]

-Tank busters I could Essential Dignity then try to heal through it with other stuff while the whm could tetra for about the same amount

Hmm so u saying that a WHM can get a 11K + heal if u crit D: ?????? (my own record)

[Yhisa]

i really really really wish players stop comparing use to WHM and SCH..... ... and buff us through our cards...... i dont want to have cooldowns like WHM or SCH..... if i wanted that i go and play them........AST is a active healer which provide support through cards.... ever thought that ast is not ment to do dps but potentially ment to set up cards instead to boost party members to make up for ur own damage xD???? the problem is that SE need to buff us through our card system and mechanics..... and stay 100 yard away from what a SCH and WHM can do.... our identity it self is literally the cards....I dont want Regen or Shields.... All i wanted to do with this job is slap people with my cards and heal / buff them depending on the situation

[Eudyptes]

Hmm so u saying that a WHM can get a 11K + heal if u crit D: ?????? (my own record)

It wont do as much as ED can, but it's close. Tetra is a 700 pot heal while ED is 400-1000 (depending on HP).

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

[GideonHighmourn]

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

I was really surprised to see AST didn't have a way to apply slow to enemies; the concept of a "space/time mage" seemed to fit that pretty well. Stella seemed like a good fit for that, or even Gravity.

[Yhisa]

It wont do as much as ED can, but it's close. Tetra is a 700 pot heal while ED is 400-1000 (depending on HP).

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

finally someone agree with me <3 i do love this class alot but i dont like the WHM and SCH vibe i get depending on what sect i am in..... to me i think AST was rushed .. it was like they had this grand idea of having a job to provide buffs but ran out of ideas half way so they slapped mimic spells from WHM and SCH to fill in our gaps and claim that they got a new healer to build hype....... all i wanted to do was throw and slap people with my cards and heal them buff then in unique ways

[Vlady]

Lol 800 from a scholar on anything is the real laugh. Ban e maybe but not single target.

[Spoekes]

I can do 700 DPS sustained on a dummy with not perfect dot uptime at iLvL 185, iLVL180 Weapon, no food or grp...

Edit: As can WHM but it will go oom

[VanEinstein]

As for your other post, I would also like to see most of AST's buffs make them different than SCH/WHM. However, at this point I think it would require some massive class reworking for that to happen. I think the easiest solution for the fixes the class needs will likely come through CDs.

Tbh, I kinda wish SE would take AST back to the drawing board and start over from scratch. Keep the "time mage" idea and preferably the cards, but nix the hybrid idea.

The author of this reddit post would seem to agree with you, as do I. https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ed_from_party/


An excerpt from the end, if you'd rather not read it all:

"Regarding the changes SE should make to AST, I cannot say. I am not a game designer, and know very little about balance. I simply believe that if an AST is supposed to fill both roles, they will never do either as optimally. AST’s need their own identity as a healer. SE should work AST into it’s own niche, and make us reconsider the current meta entirely. Things would become even more interesting for White Mages and Scholars everywhere if their play style changed based on the job of their co-healer."

It should be noted that choosing not to give AST it's own niche was a dangerous decision. If they are unwilling to turn the meta on its head, that just potentially makes more work for them later if/when they choose to add a fourth healing job to the roster, in which case they have only postponed the inevitable.

[Vlady]

@Vlady
There's a difference between adequate and competitive. Being adequate at highest level of possible play in conjunction with good RNG is no excuse not to improve the job and bring it into competitive territory. Also, what gives? Seems like you have a chip on your shoulder. Has Square steered us overly wrong yet on balance? No matter the complaints in one direction or the other, things seem to end up where they belong (even if it takes a while). Warrior and Scholar both got their adjustments, and they're so much the better for it. Across the myriad threads on this subject you don't appear to be garnering any support for your particular views on the subject. If you disapprove of the player population who want to see the job improved, just walk away. That would certainly be simpler than throwing yourself at a brick wall and getting worked up over it.

Astrologian's are competitive. As I said I am not at fault if you do not want to play to the strength of the Astrologian buff when it comes to coordinating use of your dps enhancing cards with your group.

[MidnightTundra]

Lol 800 from a scholar on anything is the real laugh. Ban e maybe but not single target.

http://imgur.com/CIiffbS

Again, please stop spreading misinformation. This is with just a CNJ in party. With Foe's/Trick Attack/etc, our numbers go even higher on single target. SCH is fully capable of outputting high single target damage.