The Spear?

[TatoRazzino]

That's exactly where I think the strength of the cards is, you know? Every RR buff comes in pairs. One of the cards that give each buff is always gonna be good and the other one is more situational or depends on the party comp and how people manage their resources, so these less useful cards can be used for RR fodder during the fights. For A1 Savage, my physical DPS are saying that TP is hardly a problem, because there are lots of movement and the jump breaks make it easy to refresh TP, so that means the Ewer can keep healers fine on MP and the Spire can be used for RR. The Spear may be good for a party with a Ninja, and if you're running three physical DPS and one SMN, the Arrow is less useful than the Spear, because too much speed drains TP. I think that's why lots of people complain: you can't just go auto-mode and do the same thing over and over again; you have to pay attention to everything.

[AsheBish]

Is it really that good for some DPS classes though? On paper it sounds good, but by lowering their GCDS, it is essentially throwing off their rotations. Don't get me wrong, I know after time some DPS could adjust to it, but when I think of say, a Dragoon class, decreasing their cooldowns might not line up well for their rotation. At least, it would be an interesting thing to look into haha.

[Richiealvian]

What I like about astro is the situational awareness of tools you have. If you're doing progression, you'll get to memorize your tanks' rotations, or if you see some oh shit moments where you had to heal more I tend to use it for my lumi aether. There's almost always a use for something with the exception of a double spear, so I guess it falls short there.. (I don't like expand/enhanced spear that much.)

[TatoRazzino]

Is it really that good for some DPS classes though? On paper it sounds good, but by lowering their GCDS, it is essentially throwing off their rotations. Don't get me wrong, I know after time some DPS could adjust to it, but when I think of say, a Dragoon class, decreasing their cooldowns might not line up well for their rotation. At least, it would be an interesting thing to look into haha.

It doesn't lower their GCDs, but their off-GCD spells, like Jumps, Ninjutsus, Quick Reload and so on.

[HeavensSword]

It doesn't lower their GCDs, but their off-GCD spells, like Jumps, Ninjutsus, Quick Reload and so on.

Don't know if this was what Ashe was referring to or not, but there was someone on the second page who thought SE should change Spear so it effects GCD skills, which would indeed be a bad idea.
If anything they could at least allow it to shave the amount of time it would have reduced off the skill for oGCD skills that are already on cooldown.

[RiisWolf]

It says Abilities, not weaponskills/spells. So it's pretty much everything that is not on the global cooldown.

[RiisWolf]

Is it really that good for some DPS classes though? On paper it sounds good, but by lowering their GCDS, it is essentially throwing off their rotations. Don't get me wrong, I know after time some DPS could adjust to it, but when I think of say, a Dragoon class, decreasing their cooldowns might not line up well for their rotation. At least, it would be an interesting thing to look into haha.

More speed isn't going to change that. And there's times where you rotation will be messed up anyway thanks to targets dying, boss invulnerability, mechanics, dodging, errors, ect., ect.

The only time this is an issue is if you are a robot.

[chumsy]

Yes, go ahead and spread the card that literally has zero beneficial applications in any situation. Excellent advice. /sarcasm

Spear was the prime royal road target, because expanded royal road into balance or arrow was the best thing an ast could be doing. Since expanded rr was nerfed...just pray you don't ever draw it.

how is it zero beneficial applications? there are so many abilities that an AST has that could be reduced from spear: time dilation, synastry, quick cast, LA, lightspeed. with a 120 second ability you shave off 24 seconds on the recast, thats huge. The reason why I spread it, is so that I can time all my CDs with it. Its a waste to cast it on anyone else unless you can coordinate with them which is highly unlikely when youre using duty finder, or at least until they fix it to reduce CD when currently on CD.

[Yhisa]

If you have a MCH, NIN, or BRD in your party, use it on them, if your tank is regularly using cooldowns, use it on then, if you're about to pop some of your own buffs use it on yourself.

NO do not throw on Dragoon mech or bard ... there cooldown is too long and majority of the time they are already on cooldown when u throw spear on them.... which then DOES NOT give the cooldown reduction..... With ninja however u garentee to always reduce there next mudra due to only being 20sec cooldown and they are always using it on cooldown so u will always make there next mudra come back faster........ compare to drg/mch/brd....... ninja is ur best option

[Geardagas]

how is it zero beneficial applications? there are so many abilities that an AST has that could be reduced from spear: time dilation, synastry, quick cast, LA, lightspeed. with a 120 second ability you shave off 24 seconds on the recast, thats huge. The reason why I spread it, is so that I can time all my CDs with it. Its a waste to cast it on anyone else unless you can coordinate with them which is highly unlikely when youre using duty finder, or at least until they fix it to reduce CD when currently on CD.

Because extended royal road into arrow/balance is infinitely better than anything spear can do, and arrow is way too good to royal road.

Increasing dps of your squad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spearing yourself