PLD dps needs to be buffed, current dps a joke

[Valkyrie-Amber]

when it comes to end game numbers pld is worthless, pld is superior as mt 1-59 but end game dark is best mt war ot.

its true there's some scaling problems here but still end game numbers beat leveling numbers by far..

also I main a drg and play pld rarely but in doing so parsing the two mt types dark and pld darks are superior like sure my pld full slaying accessory's but the dark I was parsing with was in full slaying too.

[Blueskyy]

I main a drg and play pld rarely but in doing so parsing the two mt types dark and pld darks are superior like sure my pld full slaying accessory's but the dark I was parsing with was in full slaying too.

Well done, now i see why you kept on talking about DPS DPS DPS on PLD. You main a DPS. Butt hurt DRG on top of it. Who made the numbers? You dont even have a lvl60 drk and warrior. Obviously you know NOTHING about what a tank is supposed to do. Tanking is primary, DPS is secondary. PLD has the highest physical mitigation and SHOULD be used when a boss has high physical attack. DRK has the highest MAGICALmitigation and SHOULD be used when a boss has high magical attack. A warrior while lacking in mitigation has awesome DPS to make up for it, making them the best OT. This argument is getting no where since you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here's some legit DPS comparison.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mparison-Video

[Zfz]

Here's some legit DPS comparison.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mparison-Video

There are some real problems with the video besides being a dummy parse. The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all, and that it only compares dps in dps scenarios. In real tanking situations the 3 tanks probably won't be experiencing the same drop in dps.

[Billeffingmurray]

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

There are some real problems with the video. . . The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all. . .

The warrior didn't use Storms Path (damage reduction), just Storms Eye (slashing debuff) because of the 20 potency loss. They were both doing non-optimal rotations as far as off tanking goes but I'm pretty sure the video was intending to show off something close to the maximum potential dps of the 3 tanking classes. There's nothing wrong with a dummy parse to show something like that.

[Phoenicia]

The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all.

Okay, the only situation PLD will OT is if the fight is magical damage based. As such, RoH isn't optimal to use at all (irrelevant in mitigation and a DPS loss).

The warrior didn't use Storms Path (damage reduction), just Storms Eye (slashing debuff) because of the 20 potency loss.

WAR wouldn't drop Storm's Eye for Storm's Path. They drop Butcher's Block for it, making it more of a 40 potency loss, not 20.

WAR didn't get esuna during pacifications, but it's not like they would get that in a raid scenario either since it is really low priority on the healers' list. Considering the length of the video, they lost 4 GCDs. I think it would hardly translate to 1% DPS loss at most. (I'm not counting the last pacification.

[Zfz]

Okay, the only situation PLD will OT is if the fight is magical damage based. As such, RoH isn't optimal to use at all (irrelevant in mitigation and a DPS loss).

Which begs the question...why are we even comparing OT dps? We should be comparing MT dps because common sense suggests that tanks are balanced for while they are tanking.

I'm pretty sure the video was intending to show off something close to the maximum potential dps of the 3 tanking classes. There's nothing wrong with a dummy parse to show something like that.

And people will soon (if they have not already) take the conclusions of that video out of context and say, dps for tanks are fine, and apply that conclusion to every argument involving tank dps, even for MTing.

[SpookyGhost]

And people will soon (if they have not already) take the conclusions of that video out of context and say, dps for tanks are fine, and apply that conclusion to every argument involving tank dps, even for MTing.

I think you'll find that Fell Cleave hits for 11k every time and that WAR is so OP you can bring 8 of them to anything and kill it immediately.

[Giantbane]

Which begs the question...why are we even comparing OT dps? We should be comparing MT dps because common sense suggests that tanks are balanced for while they are tanking.

both are important functions, they should be balanced for both