Physick is too weak for lvl 60 casters?

[Aegrus]

TLDR: I want my caster to be able to heal, dps, and tank.


You do realize that letting caster dps cast heals means that healers will be replaced and typical dps expected to heal. It's almost like you want to roll a healer... Wish that was in the game.../sarcasm

[Ayanno]

TLDR: I want my caster to be able to heal, dps, and tank.


You do realize that letting caster dps cast heals means that healers will be replaced and typical dps expected to heal. It's almost like you want to roll a healer... Wish that was in the game.../sarcasm

Get off yer high horse. Scaling on a couple of things since expansion has been borked(sup 14k FATE in new areas), this is one of them. Nobody's asking for a caster to be able to heal like a healer, but to have the spell work like it did at 50. You remember that right? How SMN/BLM's physick healed a decent chunk of HP to help in "oh shit!" or while soloing? But it didn't heal enough to replace healers? Remember that?

By Altana, some people will say "NO!" to even logical requests.

[Aegrus]

Get off yer high horse. Scaling on a couple of things since expansion has been borked(sup 14k FATE in new areas), this is one of them. Nobody's asking for a caster to be able to heal like a healer, but to have the spell work like it did at 50. You remember that right? How SMN/BLM's physick healed a decent chunk of HP to help in "oh shit!" or while soloing? But it didn't heal enough to replace healers? Remember that?
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First. OP

Do anybody else have that feeling Physick have so horrible scaling at lvl 60? In lvl 50 it healed like 10% your max hp, but now it heal only 5% max hp. Yah I know you should not need use it in most of content, but still.. Especially in pvp it make huge impact if there is not healers around.

He want's an impact similar to healers. So yes, he is asking for heals like healers (for physik/cure).

And, apparently you don't think about wider impacts. If a blm for example, can heal for 10% or more of someones life, with infinite mana due to Umbral Ice (much like they could at low levels) balance at higher levels goes out the window. This is especially important if you want to keep the game "balanced" and doubly so for "pvp balance."

This is a very obvious reason for splitting caster gear into int and mnd pieces because having gear that gave both gave healers too much damage and DPS classes too much healing potential (lesser but still relevant issue)

[Ayanno]

First. OP


He want's an impact similar to healers. So yes, he is asking for heals like healers (for physik/cure).

And, apparently you don't think about wider impacts. If a blm for example, can heal for 10% or more of someones life, with infinite mana due to Umbral Ice (much like they could at low levels) balance at higher levels goes out the window. This is especially important if you want to keep the game "balanced" and doubly so for "pvp balance."

This is a very obvious reason for splitting caster gear into int and mnd pieces because having gear that gave both gave healers too much damage and DPS classes too much healing potential (lesser but still relevant issue)

Nowhere in the OP is he/she asking for casters to have Physick heal similar to healers. Learn to read. They asked, specifically, if the scaling of the spell could work like it did at 50, now that we're 60. This is not unreasonable. Nobody bitched about SMN/BLM's physick's being overpowered at 50. Nobody stopped bring healers and loaded up on casters because "they could heal, dps, and tank all at once!".

Nobody did ANYTHING your saying they'd do now at 60, when we were 50 if the spell were scaled properly to account for the 10 extra levels and near 100 item levels. Why would they now? Oh, right, they wouldn't. Yer just pulling shit out of the aether to say "NO!".

[Aegrus]

Nowhere in the OP is he/she asking for casters to have Physick heal similar to healers. Learn to read. They asked, specifically, if the scaling of the spell could work like it did at 50, now that we're 60. This is not unreasonable. Nobody bitched about SMN/BLM's physick's being overpowered at 50. Nobody stopped bring healers and loaded up on casters because "they could heal, dps, and tank all at once!".

Nobody did ANYTHING your saying they'd do now at 60, when we were 50 if the spell were scaled properly to account for the 10 extra levels and near 100 item levels. Why would they now? Oh, right, they wouldn't. Yer just pulling shit out of the aether to say "NO!".

You are on some sorta SJW kick... Tone it down, I am not trying to assassinate your crippled asthmatic kitten. Just because someone doesn't agree with a point, doesn't mean you need to get all angsty. Chillax.

[sirDarts]

Get off yer high horse. Scaling on a couple of things since expansion has been borked(sup 14k FATE in new areas), this is one of them. Nobody's asking for a caster to be able to heal like a healer, but to have the spell work like it did at 50. You remember that right? How SMN/BLM's physick healed a decent chunk of HP to help in "oh shit!" or while soloing? But it didn't heal enough to replace healers? Remember that?

By Altana, some people will say "NO!" to even logical requests.

No, I really don't remember casters helping with their heals in "oh shit!" situations. I do remember SMN helping with Swiftcast + Revive, that one is great. But the heals? Never felt a positive impact.
On the other hand I have seen BLMs/SMNs healing themselves because I "neglected" them for 20 seconds while they were in no danger of dying, unless they walk into AoE, and that death would not be prevented by their 400 more HP anyways. This not only caused me to overheal them, which is completely useless in this game, but also cost a chunk of DPS.

[Tamlin]

No, I really don't remember casters helping with their heals in "oh shit!" situations. I do remember SMN helping with Swiftcast + Revive, that one is great. But the heals? Never felt a positive impact.
On the other hand I have seen BLMs/SMNs healing themselves because I "neglected" them for 20 seconds while they were in no danger of dying, unless they walk into AoE, and that death would not be prevented by their 400 more HP anyways. This not only caused me to overheal them, which is completely useless in this game, but also cost a chunk of DPS.

I have several occations been able to save a pt from a full wipe - if the healer went down - due to having physick on my BLM, most often in low-lvl DR, but also in other content, in particular where there have been long breaks between the hard-hitting actions of a mob. So yes: there have been situations were it has been a positive impact for sure - even if you haven't experienced them youself.

And for healers not even tossing a regen for 20 sec when a party-member have low HP: I have died due to ticks of <insert your pref. DoT here> where healer have not paid attention to the other party members due to "no AoE that can't be avoided coming up", and also saved my sorry ass several times by healing myself for those 400 HP (or 800-1200 if having to cast 2-3 physicks) that meant the difference between life and death on that next tick.
So yes: the scaling of physicks is soarly missed.

And to get the numbers right for a BLM, Physicks at ilvl 130 would heal for aprox 7,5 % of total healt = 450hp
What I would wish for, is 7,5 % of current HP (don't have the numbers in front of me as in the office), but say 9k hp, that would mean 675 Physicks, or 10k hp = 750 Physicks.

[Felis]

And to get the numbers right for a BLM, Physicks at ilvl 130 would heal for aprox 7,5 % of total healt = 450hp
What I would wish for, is 7,5 % of current HP (don't have the numbers in front of me as in the office), but say 9k hp, that would mean 675 Physicks, or 10k hp = 750 Physicks.

That would also affect Physick on Scholar. Just equip more mind or have a mind potion ready for the "oh no" moments.

[Raist]

I have several occations been able to save a pt from a full wipe - if the healer went down - due to having physick on my BLM, most often in low-lvl DR, but also in other content, in particular where there have been long breaks between the hard-hitting actions of a mob. So yes: there have been situations were it has been a positive impact for sure - even if you haven't experienced them youself.

And for healers not even tossing a regen for 20 sec when a party-member have low HP: I have died due to ticks of <insert your pref. DoT here> where healer have not paid attention to the other party members due to "no AoE that can't be avoided coming up", and also saved my sorry ass several times by healing myself for those 400 HP (or 800-1200 if having to cast 2-3 physicks) that meant the difference between life and death on that next tick.
So yes: the scaling of physicks is soarly missed.

And to get the numbers right for a BLM, Physicks at ilvl 130 would heal for aprox 7,5 % of total healt = 450hp
What I would wish for, is 7,5 % of current HP (don't have the numbers in front of me as in the office), but say 9k hp, that would mean 675 Physicks, or 10k hp = 750 Physicks.

To put a little perspective on the problem....I have to swap all the right side pieces to mind gears to bring my level 60 SMN's cures up to the level (percent-wise) they were at 50. That is a major shift in potency.

To consistently break 850 on either BLM or SMN I have to swap out 6 slots to MND stats. How often do you get healed for more than double that be a healer?