Mail, AH and Banks

[Seif]

People who left because of the lack of AH will not return until this basic feature of any MMO is implemented into XIV that has already proven that MW can never work because most people aren't using it.

People who saw the reviews that slammed XIV for not having a proper AH will not even try to give it a chance until they see that SE is working on these important changes.

The rest of us will just have to suffer with the broken economy because it affects every aspect of the game.

Every time I throw away loot drops I have no way of knowing what that item was worth.

[Onidemon]

What you just described was a Market window, not an Auction House.

To me it sure sounded like every AH system i've seen in any MMO so far.

Market Wards would be more like this "go to MW, chose from menu which MW u wanna go to, Loading.. wait, Arrive in MW, open menu, summon retainer, confirm like 2-3 times, retainer summoned, talk to him, select give items, select item from your inventory, wait, wait, select another item, wait, wait, give up on giving any more items, go back to retainer menu, select setup bazard wtv, select items to sell, wait, select price, click ok and wait, select 2nd item, select price, wait.... go back to retainer menu, exit retainer menu..... 45min just passed time to log off for the day....

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

[Abauge_Goga]

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

Agreed.

Also, fix the +1, +2, +3 items. When the retainers are overloaded with items and it reached the cap, you can't search anything past what is shown, which means you can't find a +3 piece because the cheapest are always at the top.

[Onidemon]

Agreed.

Also, fix the +1, +2, +3 items. When the retainers are overloaded with items and it reached the cap, you can't search anything past what is shown, which means you can't find a +3 piece because the cheapest are always at the top.

Yes.

And when are we going to get more info on AH? Community reps u hear me? Yoshi-P said he was considering it but seeing all those post about fixing markets stability it feels like they scratched that idea.

Markets never crashed or lagged on me so stability is not what we need, we need a simple, easy and fast system(AKA AH). Doesn't matter if SE gets the best server this planet has to offer or that they are programmed by god himself, the whole market ward system is bad. The zoning part is wasting time, theres way too many menus and each of them are extreamlly slow and even if they werent that slow there's just too many, too many steps, too much of a headache.

[Cairdeas]

To me it sure sounded like every AH system i've seen in any MMO so far.

Market Wards would be more like this "go to MW, chose from menu which MW u wanna go to, Loading.. wait, Arrive in MW, open menu, summon retainer, confirm like 2-3 times, retainer summoned, talk to him, select give items, select item from your inventory, wait, wait, select another item, wait, wait, give up on giving any more items, go back to retainer menu, select setup bazard wtv, select items to sell, wait, select price, click ok and wait, select 2nd item, select price, wait.... go back to retainer menu, exit retainer menu..... 45min just passed time to log off for the day....

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

Every game thats had an "Auction House" has had an auction mechanic implemented even if it wasn't used by a majority of the players (WoW, Timed Bidding), FFXI was all Auction Mechanic (Blind Bidding)

Just going to a window and buying something doesn't make a system an Auction. That is a Market System. Eve has a Market System, You go to a window you buy stuff, its dropped in your inventory (In the station you bought from)


What that person described was a Market Window because he didn't designate any features that are exclusive to an Auction house (Timed or Blind Bidding) Only that a single place was necessary to purchase or sell something (Not a requirement or component of an auction, but a market)

Again, Taking the Market Wards, Removing the Physical Component (Rendering each retainer in individual Zones etc) and compiling it down into a searchable menu where you search an item, it lists the retainers selling it, you open the retainer see his wares then buy the item you want and leave, Or handing your items over to your retainer from said window and setting prices for them right there, doesn't make the system an Auction House. It makes it a Market Window. It doesn't Become an Auction House till Timed Bidding (Rarely Used) or Blind Bidding (RMT Bait) are implemented.


And I've yet to see a majority of players ask specifically for Timed or Blind Bidding, Just an easy and convenient place to easily sell and buy items.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House

[Onidemon]

Every game thats had an "Auction House" has had an auction mechanic implemented even if it wasn't used by a majority of the players (WoW, Timed Bidding), FFXI was all Auction Mechanic (Blind Bidding)

Just going to a window and buying something doesn't make a system an Auction. That is a Market System. Eve has a Market System, You go to a window you buy stuff, its dropped in your inventory (In the station you bought from)


What that person described was a Market Window because he didn't designate any features that are exclusive to an Auction house (Timed or Blind Bidding) Only that a single place was necessary to purchase or sell something (Not a requirement or component of an auction, but a market)

Again, Taking the Market Wards, Removing the Physical Component (Rendering each retainer in individual Zones etc) and compiling it down into a searchable menu where you search an item, it lists the retainers selling it, you open the retainer see his wares then buy the item you want and leave, Or handing your items over to your retainer from said window and setting prices for them right there, doesn't make the system an Auction House. It makes it a Market Window. It doesn't Become an Auction House till Timed Bidding (Rarely Used) or Blind Bidding (RMT Bait) are implemented.


And I've yet to see a majority of players ask specifically for Timed or Blind Bidding, Just an easy and convenient place to easily sell and buy items.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House

Ok well this is what i want. I don't want to bidding part of AH, nobody uses it as you said. So can we get markets SE plz?

[Armozel]

Yeah, I'd love a market system like they have in EVE. It was probably the best feature of that game, ever. Especially when you troll other players by buying up their stuff then selling it at a markedly higher price. :3

[Onidemon]

Yeah, I'd love a market system like they have in EVE. It was probably the best feature of that game, ever. Especially when you troll other players by buying up their stuff then selling it at a markedly higher price. :3

That's not trolling at all, it's called business. It's done in real life everyday. In WOW(With an addon) you could search for items, check the pricy history and if an item is selling below the usual price, you could buy it and resell it for a profit. I made quite a lot of money that way.

[Sylvari]

just wanna bump this Thread.... I want a mail system ASAP!!! i couldn't care less about a AH, the market wards are fine IMO... and sure a Bank would be nice...

[Tahldon]

I don't see why they couldn't implement a mail system through with the retainer takes care of everything. Not quite a Moogle House, but they care for wares and act as a "bank" of sorts. I don't see why they couldn't "transport mail to one another". Besides, they have to be doing something else when we "summon" them anyway. Why not make that "something else" be delivering mail and things...