Mail, AH and Banks

[Onidemon]

It is also annoying to be forced to check for each and every item what the current value is, then run back to the retainer to adjust the price in order to sell it whenever you have a new item you want to sell or when you notice an item is not selling after quite a while. This is way too much effort and no fun at all. In an AH one could see that instantly. So once again... Please finally add an AH.

Yes that is one of my biggest complains. I come from WOW and with the AH all i had to do is search for an item to see it's price and then click a tab to adjust price and sell my item. So easy and fast.

I had 100 items/ full bag on my retainer and my character as well... wanted to start selling some stuff in the markets but after wasting like 15 minutes for like 5-6 items i gave up and sold all to an NPC. You have to run back and forward for the price and if that wasn't enough just giving items to your retainer and then putting it for sell is soooooOOooooOOOOooo SLOOOOOoooooOOOOooooOW...................... No wonder why most retainers i see dont have more then 5-10 items for sell.... IMO an AH would easily fix all that and it wouldn't necessarily mean ending the market wards.

[Balbanes]

I would like info on a mail system / bank as well. AH could be effectively replaced by MW improvements & additions IMO.

[Alkoun]

Trading items with my retainer, setting up proper prices, even zoning into the market wards themselves, all takes too long. I've given up on using my retainer to sell stuff and just vendor everything. Zone in, find my retainer, trade items (WAAAY TOO SLOW), write down about 10 item names I wanna sell, go to the door, check the prices, run back, set the prices, zone back out.

With an AH: go to AH window, check prices, set prices, press button to sell. Done.

[Cairdeas]

With an AH: go to AH window, check prices, set prices, press button to sell. Done.

What you just described was a Market window, not an Auction House.

[Onidemon]

What you just described was a Market window, not an Auction House.

To me it sure sounded like every AH system i've seen in any MMO so far.

Market Wards would be more like this "go to MW, chose from menu which MW u wanna go to, Loading.. wait, Arrive in MW, open menu, summon retainer, confirm like 2-3 times, retainer summoned, talk to him, select give items, select item from your inventory, wait, wait, select another item, wait, wait, give up on giving any more items, go back to retainer menu, select setup bazard wtv, select items to sell, wait, select price, click ok and wait, select 2nd item, select price, wait.... go back to retainer menu, exit retainer menu..... 45min just passed time to log off for the day....

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

[Abauge_Goga]

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

Agreed.

Also, fix the +1, +2, +3 items. When the retainers are overloaded with items and it reached the cap, you can't search anything past what is shown, which means you can't find a +3 piece because the cheapest are always at the top.

[Onidemon]

Agreed.

Also, fix the +1, +2, +3 items. When the retainers are overloaded with items and it reached the cap, you can't search anything past what is shown, which means you can't find a +3 piece because the cheapest are always at the top.

Yes.

And when are we going to get more info on AH? Community reps u hear me? Yoshi-P said he was considering it but seeing all those post about fixing markets stability it feels like they scratched that idea.

Markets never crashed or lagged on me so stability is not what we need, we need a simple, easy and fast system(AKA AH). Doesn't matter if SE gets the best server this planet has to offer or that they are programmed by god himself, the whole market ward system is bad. The zoning part is wasting time, theres way too many menus and each of them are extreamlly slow and even if they werent that slow there's just too many, too many steps, too much of a headache.

[Cairdeas]

To me it sure sounded like every AH system i've seen in any MMO so far.

Market Wards would be more like this "go to MW, chose from menu which MW u wanna go to, Loading.. wait, Arrive in MW, open menu, summon retainer, confirm like 2-3 times, retainer summoned, talk to him, select give items, select item from your inventory, wait, wait, select another item, wait, wait, give up on giving any more items, go back to retainer menu, select setup bazard wtv, select items to sell, wait, select price, click ok and wait, select 2nd item, select price, wait.... go back to retainer menu, exit retainer menu..... 45min just passed time to log off for the day....

plz just give me an AH, no zoning, just talk to an NPC, see a clean and simple menu with tabs, allow me to drag and drop, selling 100 items= 5-10 min.

Every game thats had an "Auction House" has had an auction mechanic implemented even if it wasn't used by a majority of the players (WoW, Timed Bidding), FFXI was all Auction Mechanic (Blind Bidding)

Just going to a window and buying something doesn't make a system an Auction. That is a Market System. Eve has a Market System, You go to a window you buy stuff, its dropped in your inventory (In the station you bought from)


What that person described was a Market Window because he didn't designate any features that are exclusive to an Auction house (Timed or Blind Bidding) Only that a single place was necessary to purchase or sell something (Not a requirement or component of an auction, but a market)

Again, Taking the Market Wards, Removing the Physical Component (Rendering each retainer in individual Zones etc) and compiling it down into a searchable menu where you search an item, it lists the retainers selling it, you open the retainer see his wares then buy the item you want and leave, Or handing your items over to your retainer from said window and setting prices for them right there, doesn't make the system an Auction House. It makes it a Market Window. It doesn't Become an Auction House till Timed Bidding (Rarely Used) or Blind Bidding (RMT Bait) are implemented.


And I've yet to see a majority of players ask specifically for Timed or Blind Bidding, Just an easy and convenient place to easily sell and buy items.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House

[Onidemon]

Every game thats had an "Auction House" has had an auction mechanic implemented even if it wasn't used by a majority of the players (WoW, Timed Bidding), FFXI was all Auction Mechanic (Blind Bidding)

Just going to a window and buying something doesn't make a system an Auction. That is a Market System. Eve has a Market System, You go to a window you buy stuff, its dropped in your inventory (In the station you bought from)


What that person described was a Market Window because he didn't designate any features that are exclusive to an Auction house (Timed or Blind Bidding) Only that a single place was necessary to purchase or sell something (Not a requirement or component of an auction, but a market)

Again, Taking the Market Wards, Removing the Physical Component (Rendering each retainer in individual Zones etc) and compiling it down into a searchable menu where you search an item, it lists the retainers selling it, you open the retainer see his wares then buy the item you want and leave, Or handing your items over to your retainer from said window and setting prices for them right there, doesn't make the system an Auction House. It makes it a Market Window. It doesn't Become an Auction House till Timed Bidding (Rarely Used) or Blind Bidding (RMT Bait) are implemented.


And I've yet to see a majority of players ask specifically for Timed or Blind Bidding, Just an easy and convenient place to easily sell and buy items.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House

Ok well this is what i want. I don't want to bidding part of AH, nobody uses it as you said. So can we get markets SE plz?

[Alkoun]

And I've yet to see a majority of players ask specifically for Timed or Blind Bidding, Just an easy and convenient place to easily sell and buy items.

That's actually fine with me. Don't really need bidding. A market window that allows me to NEVER have to enter a market ward is great, and it'd be perfect if I never even have to talk to my retainer (except maybe to get mail or store items, but setting up sales? no ty. I'd rather use a market window to do that).

Edit: I voted on the poll too. Thanks for that.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Auction-House