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    This is not a problem with the parser, this is just a problem with someone who doesn't know how to read a parser.

    Back when I had a static for second coil we were running into issues where one of our bards' dps was significantly lower than the others. Using a parser I was able to first off tell that there was a discrepancy but I was also able to look at the differences in their accuracy, crit rates, damage per hit, ability usage, we were able to tell of this was a problem due to gear or some foible in playstyle.

    Because of my parser we were able to see what specifically was different and were able to fix the problem, once the bard knew specifically where he was going wrong he was able to put out nearly the same dps as the other bard.

    Blaming douchebaggery on parsers won't stop people from being rude. This game fosters a lack of personal accountability both jn playstyle as well as in attitude. In the duty finder people are free to be as rude and obnoxious as they want because the chance that they will see anyone in that group ever again is extremely remote. Furthermore up until you get into raid tier content you can succeed without using optimal playstyles.

    That and the internet in general seems to bring out the worst aspects of humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    This is not a problem with the parser, this is just a problem with someone who doesn't know how to read a parser.
    And? What's the point of saying this? Of course there's nothing inherently wrong with parsers. SE has one of their own. The problem is the community at large cannot be trusted to us them properly such that they do far far more harm then good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    And? What's the point of saying this? Of course there's nothing inherently wrong with parsers. SE has one of their own. The problem is the community at large cannot be trusted to us them properly such that they do far far more harm then good.
    What is the point of this whole thread?

    As long as square enix is going to have content that requires people to play top tier with little to no margin for error people are going to use parsers. Square enix can say they aren't allowed, you can dislike them all you want. The point of my comment was that parsers don't cause asshats to be asshats. If that tank didn't have a parser he still would have been just as vocal about the group's inability to clear content.

    Someone had a negative player interaction in a game that requires no accountability for players to not be terrible people? You can blame it on whatever you want but as long as you play with random people this will be a relatively large risk you take.
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    Last edited by Ferth; 07-25-2015 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferth View Post
    That and the internet in general seems to bring out the worst aspects of humanity.
    http://www.penny-arcade.com/S=0/comic/2004/03/19

    This is all that needs to be said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakei View Post
    The worst tank I ever saw had a great parse. It was in EQ2, I was healing and he was out dps'ing all of our dps. It was easy for him since his gear far exceeded everyone else since it was from the top raids at the time. He couldn't hold ago to save his life, literally. The dps couldn't obliterate the mobs in a normal dungeon pickup group like his raid guild buddies. So, the mobs were up long enough that he actually needed to use taunts and tank stance couldn't have hurt either. So, he topped the parse but kept causing everyone to die because of it. Thankfully, he left after only a few pulls.
    Did he happen to be a zerker or SK?

    Becuase those were the two notorious ones. -_- At least on Crushbone.
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    Last edited by Nadirah; 07-25-2015 at 07:19 AM.