Parsers make you stupid

[Gallus]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

[Badkarma]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

exactly correct

[Raxiaz]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

I just wanted to reiterate this wisdom in this thread... carry on. \o/

A personal in-game DPS meter that shows you and you alone how you're doing (and not anyone else) is the best we can ever hope to receive *because it doesn't open up anyone to abuse*. Again, we do not need to see what the DPS of anyone else is.. not because there aren't legitimate reasons for it, but because players can not be trusted to be mature with that information.

Also, I would be in support of a self-only parser.

[thunderbreak]

I think they were stupid before using parser...

[OvernightSiren]

Honestly the title of this thread makes you sound stupid and like you have a chip on your shoulder.

[DubiousDisk]

Parsers are great IF you're in a serious static that wants to output the most DPS in a raid, or if you just like to see how much you can pump out.

People who use it to judge and berate others hurt my young soul and honestly you should just ignore them. If you know you're DPS is good enough for a raid and know the mechanics, then don't let it get to you.

Once in my Turn 8 party someone was using a parser on me and my best friend, and yelled at my friend because her DPS compared to mines was a tad bit lower.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Parsers are a diagnosis tool. You don't need one to see a bad DPS, but it adds confirmation.

Generally the only people who will publicly complain about low DPS in DF, without taking factors into account, are people with low skill trying to emulate the endgame progression community. If you get this in PF, you're kind of expected to know what you're doing.

That said, balls are not as huge of a DPS drop are you're making it out to be. While MNK suffers a bit in A4 from losing GL more often than comfortable it shouldn't be a huge gap either.

[averageamn]

To be frank, the only time anyone would complain about a DPS' inability to do damage is if a tank or healer bests them in damage for a fight.

Nice complaint thread tho.

[Aethaeryn]

To be frank, the only time anyone would complain about a DPS' inability to do damage is if a tank or healer bests them in damage for a fight.

Nice complaint thread tho.

Definitely not true. A month or two before the expansion, someone was complaining about how I was doing 450 dps on my i118 geared bard in a farming dungeon while his monk buddy was doing like 550 in BiS gear. I was playing bard for fun, and we still finished the dungeon in like 16 minutes or something, so I'm not sure what the problem was.

Also, it's pretty easy for an offtank (especially warrior) to outdamage a melee in A4 if they just stay on the boss the whole time and make the melee handle all of the mechanics they should be handling.

[averageamn]

Definitely not true. A month or two before the expansion, someone was complaining about how I was doing 450 dps on my i118 geared bard in a farming dungeon while his monk buddy was doing like 550 in BiS gear. I was playing bard for fun, and we still finished the dungeon in like 16 minutes or something, so I'm not sure what the problem was.

Also, it's pretty easy for an offtank (especially warrior) to outdamage a melee in A4 if they just stay on the boss the whole time and make the melee handle all of the mechanics they should be handling.

If a monk was outdpsing a BRD in a dungeon, you were failing to AoE efficiently. That's complaint worthy.

Saying "playing for fun" is the most redundant and defeatest thing ever. Everyone plays for fun. Stop using "fun" as an excuse for being terrible.

Also, if an OT is within 100 dps (about how much they'd lose at most doing mechanics) in A4 of a MNK, then there is something very wrong with what the MNK is doing.