We should have a "Lance mage", "Ninja Sword mage", "Fist mage"

[Aiselia]

Of course you didn't say anything about the job except from that

That's why I said "One of". As in "there are more". I thought that would be clear, but I guess when you're struggling to attack me, you have to ignore certain things. Like... y'know, what I said.

lying is wrong you know ?

Then why did you lie about reading all of my posts?

I didn't even read your thing about winning

Too bad. It might have saved you your annoyance.

know you have some other skills to care about

Which are all used in a very obvious order with 1.5 seconds to think about it each GCD, rather than having to actually react to things as they happen. Barrage no longer needs thought about timing or worry about making sure you're facing the enemy the whole time. Empyreal Arrow needs no thought, you just use it when it's up. Bloodletter needs less thought because you don't have to pay as close of attention to procs for 1.5 sec out of every 2.5 sec because you can't use them yet.

Also, Iron Jaws still simplifies dot refreshing, especially when it comes to TP, since refreshing dots before cost 160 TP. Now it costs 60.

Curious, has any MMO had melee that cast as an important part of their damage dealing?

Guild Wars 1 and 2.

Especially Guild Wars 2, since every class can potentially be melee.

[LeafElksthorne]

It was a terrible thread with a terrible analogy that didnt fit the current situation at all. Sooo ya know, kinda deserved to be deleted.

You're a SMN. STFU you have no clue what you're talking about.

[Sapphic]

I was replying to that other person who stated every class had "huge changes" and that Bard's are just whiners.

So you aren't liking Wanderers on your level 32 BRD....... Instead of being a parrot for the doom n gloom posts about BRD you seem to be following, actually talk from experience or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32C0eKRQVt8

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/8001661/

[Aiselia]

actually talk from experience

And yet he's actually got the complaints right.

If he hasn't experienced them, apparently he doesn't need to, because he already understands the issues cast times thoughtlessly dumped onto a class designed around not having them.

[Sapphic]

And yet he's actually got the complaints right.

Monkeys and Parrots can mimic other things. Doesn't make them right. I've had more hands on experience with Wanderers than the OP has and my BRD is only level 52. The OP made a post saying BRDs and MCH are being excluded from Alex Savage, then it got shot down by evidence of the world first clears using BRD and/or MCH to clear A1 savage. He then went on to post a parser from a Alex 1 normal, which didnt have a BRD or MCH and flouted it as "proof" that they are being excluded.

So, you can understand why I take what the OP says like an episode of the funnies in the newspaper? XD

BTW, I'm liking WM upto now. Mained BRD from launch upto clearing first coil then switched to MNK, and found BRD kinda hella boring after. Never been much of a fan of BLM either, Yet I'm fine with the very short cast time under WM, which, you can turn off and you can anim skip to move and not lose cast. Near the end of the cast, move, it doesnt interrupt the shot. What good healers and casters do.

Also our static BRD is loving the level 60 BRD, as she feels they are in a VERY good spot.

But all that will be ignored for the doom n gloomers. As if their opinion is the only one that matters.

[Tilgung]

And yet he's actually got the complaints right.

I thought it was impossible to understand a jobs mechanics without playing it?

[Sapphic]

I thought it was impossible to understand a jobs mechanics without playing it?

The OP is just parroting the doom and gloomers with no hands on experience of what he is talking about to give any first hand feedback.

Like his opening post, DRG has changed with blood of the dragon. MNK is similar, but not exactly the same. NIN, cant comment on as none in static play NIN. And our static BRD is loving it, especially Faust in A1(S) where she can turret all day and rip him a new one.

BRD takes a little forethought into when you can and cannot use WM, when to just side step or to drop it. It hurts peoples heads XD Even 2.0, unless you where an hyperactive bunny/kangaroo then you turreted for a lot of the fights anyways, perfect time to kick up that pew pew with WM.

[Tilgung]

That's the point. Aiselia's first defense is along the lines of "I don't see a 60 BRD in your profile". But Sovereign, who only has a 32 BRD iirc, agrees with him and Aiselia okays him.

[Psycofang]

This troll thread is still alive.

[Aiselia]

That's the point. Aiselia's first defense is along the lines of "I don't see a 60 BRD in your profile". But Sovereign, who only has a 32 BRD iirc, agrees with him and Aiselia okays him.

It's two different situations. Sovereign appears to understand the issues with having a cast time on a class designed around capitalizing on a lot of, and frequently-resetting, OGCDs. This suggests to me that either he understands the concept of Bards better than other non-Bards, or he has, in fact, used it, be it on another character of his own or someone else's. Either way, he seems to understand at least the objective issues with shoehorning cast times onto the class.

People who clearly don't understand the problems of missed BL procs and Straighter Shot procs coming too late should experience it before making saying it's fine and to shut up about it.

It's hard for it to be my first defence because I don't tend to even check most peoples' profiles because they're not necessarily accurate.

After all, my only displayed character doesn't even have a 60 yet.

It's like... if somebody had a car that wasn't functioning properly and someone who isn't a mechanic looked into the issues and explained what it could be, and the mechanics agree, even though he doesn't have experience fixing cars, compared to people who say the car is functioning fine because they see it moving.

BRD takes a little forethought into when you can and cannot use WM, when to just side step or to drop it.

Like this, for example. The movement is a side issue compared to the very objective issues that Straighter Shot doesn't proc until after you start casting your next GCD, which could be Straight Shot, which wouldn't get the effect of the Straighter Shot that just procced, or that BL can reset while you're casting and reset again so that you lose a cast. Or that Repelling Shot requires a wait after using it or it interrupts your casting.

This is an example of a person who would say that a car is functioning perfectly because it can move.