Parsers make you stupid

[Vmage]

Out of sight, out of mind, just play the game. If you DF a instance, remember where you are. If you don't like how others are playing, form your own party of heroes.

pretty much, they're not that useful in DF... odds are you won't even see those people again anyways.

although, I do wish they were part of the stock UI.. or at least as ubiquitous as they are in WoW... the average dps player in WoW puts out numbers a lot closer to their theoretical max than the average dps player in ffxiv does, and i have to think that parsers being so prevalent has something to do with it.

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

I wasn't putting out enough damage on my White Mage.

White Mage is a dps class buddy. LTP!

#kidding

[Averax]

I hated them in wow. They caused people to develop the most poisonous of attitudes. People got booted from heroic dungeons (not very hard) for not performing up to people's liking, even though things were dying (and in wow people don't pay attention to vote kicks and will blindly click them).

It made me so self conscious about myself that i had to download one just to know that i'm performing well.

I'm glad that they're not allowed here, but i wish it was more enforced. It's currently "if you have it, don't talk about it" but people talk about them all the time.

[Xystic]

Stop using "fun" as an excuse for being terrible.

You took numbers off a post to make that comment. Imagine what people would do with actual numbers off a parser.

This is why we don't allow public parsers. =d

[m3eansean]

It made me so self conscious about myself that i had to download one just to know that i'm performing well.

You should be self-conscious. This is a group activity. IRL, if you are on a team or at work and see that you are clearly under-performing compared to your colleagues, most human beings would attempt to better themselves so they don't feel the shame of letting the group down. Why can't this aspect of social behavior be extended to a game where you must socialize to succeed?

[Eye_Gore]

IRL, if you are on a team or at work and see that you are clearly under-performing compared to your colleagues, most human beings would attempt to better themselves so they don't feel the shame of letting the group down.

That depends on the pay scale

[Fendred]

However, the only way to know for certain if you are doing well as a damage dealer is to have a good parser and a rotation guide. Over the years, a lot of us WoW vets developed a type of "common MMO sense" for doing damage because everyone used the same general combat system. New players who have never played an MMORPG before are left to the mercy of their gaming background. Some experiences will transfer well to a theme park MMORPG like FFXIV:ARR, while others don't hold up.

As long as damage dealer is a role and enrage mechanics are present, parsers will become indispensable tools for conquering hard content. There really is no way around it.

[Theodric]

More and more people seem to be using them. I loathe them, to be honest - they bring the sort of toxicity into the game that I want to leave behind after encountering it in other MMO's.

[StrejdaTom]

Melees are still usually the highest DPS in A4. Git gud before you start trashing parsers. xD
But yeah, as a melee you should not be concerned with orbs.

EDIT. And it is completely fault of SE that people use parsers. When they put DPS checks into everything they must expect that people will need to know their DPS to actually dish out the weak parts of their parties.

[Aethaeryn]

If a monk was outdpsing a BRD in a dungeon, you were failing to AoE efficiently. That's complaint worthy.

Saying "playing for fun" is the most redundant and defeatest thing ever. Everyone plays for fun. Stop using "fun" as an excuse for being terrible.

Also, if an OT is within 100 dps (about how much they'd lose at most doing mechanics) in A4 of a MNK, then there is something very wrong with what the MNK is doing.

I was talking about boss damage for the dungeon thing obviously. People actually parse trash and care about the damage? My just for fun comment was that BRD isn't my main job and I didn't have it in perfect gear like that monk did. Quit being condescending and assuming stuff, please.

Also, considering warriors can apparently put out 1100 dps on dummies (old video on youtube, I don't know what they can do now), I don't think it'd be hard for a warrior to do that on the last phase of A4 if they're just standing in one place and not helping with orbs or anything else.