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    AsteriaStarfall's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegrus View Post
    However, this pales in comparison to AST, who straight up under performs compared to WHM and SCH. The shields are weaker, the heals are weaker, and I am not even going to touch utility or dps which is abysmal.
    I sense you do not play AST as your main. Since AST is my main, i have had no problems keeping up with WHM or SCH. Playing AST is a little bit more RNG, and also about knowing when to use your CDs appropriately. Bad player playing AST, going to have a really bad time keeping up. Have a good player play AST, then be ready for some amazing heals.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall View Post
    I sense you do not play AST as your main. Since AST is my main, i have had no problems keeping up with WHM or SCH. Playing AST is a little bit more RNG, and also about knowing when to use your CDs appropriately. Bad player playing AST, going to have a really bad time keeping up. Have a good player play AST, then be ready for some amazing heals.
    I must agree 100% here, while my astro is barely levelled i know plenty of people and have done countless dungeons with Astrologians and they are totally fine
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsteriaStarfall View Post
    I sense you do not play AST as your main. Since AST is my main, i have had no problems keeping up with WHM or SCH. Playing AST is a little bit more RNG, and also about knowing when to use your CDs appropriately. Bad player playing AST, going to have a really bad time keeping up. Have a good player play AST, then be ready for some amazing heals.
    This post is also directed at anyone else who thinks AST is fine.
    For casual content, yes it performs.
    For real end game, NO, it does not. There's a lot of threads talking about the topic already.... my main is AST and it's not performing well for Savage. Also, quoting another post, many people play telephone with anything that's been said. Yes, FEW ASTs have beaten A1 Savage but not without a lot of struggle. FEW, not "many" and honestly, it's probably mostly because there were little to no mistakes, because it is very very hard to make up for mistakes as an AST in comparison to WHM (which I also main since 2.0). So yes, the OP is right about AST underperforming in comparison to WHM/SCH.

    If you do not do Savage, don't say AST is fine. Say "AST is fine for casual content, don't know about real end game though." so there is less misunderstandings/misleads and for SE to actually be able to know what needs to be addressed in order to fix the job.
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    Last edited by Tyla_Esmeraude; 07-24-2015 at 02:20 AM.

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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    What WoW does, and it does it better than Final Fantasy XIV or just about any other MMO on the market, is feel good.

    The game is smooth, the combat is usually fluid and responsive, the UI is simple, it just plays very, very well. That's a huge deal so obviously people will enjoy the game that plays the best.


    The problem it has is...everything else, really. WoW when it had its most subscribers was absolutely fantastic but over the last several years it's been dwindling as the more creative minds behind it move on to other projects and the more Activision side takes the reigns to just nickle and dime the playerbase into nothing.

    Warlords of Draenor is a skinner box wearing an MMO's skin and that's all it is. It's sad that content droughts are actually expected there now. With the new raid out and no news of a new expansion yet people are EXPECTING Hellfire Citadel's patch to last a year with nothing new to shake things up. Blizzard is apparently fine with the massive spikes in user numbers so they let these droughts happen, promising they are working on something great. Then that something comes out and is not so great.

    I think WoW is an important monster look at for any MMO. At its best it's been amazing but at its worst it is hollow, shallow and depressing. If FFXIV is taking notes (and I can tell it is) it should learn from WoW's strengths but also its failures. That means not doing many of the things WoW's been doing since Cataclysm.

    Right now, comparing Heavensward to Warlords, Heavensward doesn't play quite as well but is still the better experience by far.
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