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  1. #1
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Thela View Post
    I don't think anybody want it to be better than WHM/SCH? but in order for ppl to actually play them they have to be able to do the latest content aka savage, and right now they just cannot. You can bring AST's to content when you outgear it (in fact they are perfect to bring when you outgear content), but for progression atm you CANNOT bring them, that is the problem.
    My 2% (for both targets) wipe on Savage 1 says otherwise. Which would have been a kill if the monk didn't get killed by the giant laser beam.
    Only took 2 lockouts to get that far. Will most likely beat it today (as Astro). We only do 2-3 lockouts a night however, I'm fairly certain by the amount of sub 5% pulls we got on the first night we will beat it.

    None of the issues we have is healing, its all simply execution of mechanics.

    This seems to be a learn to play astro issue more than it needing any changes. (Besides the garbage shield stance)
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    Last edited by Staris; 07-23-2015 at 02:26 AM.

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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    This seems to be a learn to play astro issue more than it needing any changes. (Besides the garbage shield stance)
    I'm curious as to how much the other healer is making up for your faults though. Skill will only take you so far. Ast is objectively worse (as in raw, mathematical side by side comparisons) than both of the other healers in virtually every aspect (we need to have perfect rng to even win the "best buffer" category).

    Don't fool yourself, ast needs a lot of changes.
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    I'm curious as to how much the other healer is making up for your faults though. Skill will only take you so far. Ast is objectively worse (as in raw, mathematical side by side comparisons) than both of the other healers in virtually every aspect (we need to have perfect rng to even win the "best buffer" category).

    Don't fool yourself, ast needs a lot of changes.
    Ast can definitely use some changes but that doesn't stop "I'm curious as to how much the other healer is making up for your faults though" any less of a complete informal fallacy as well as the "CANNOT take them into raids". The bottom line is that even with marginally less healing output ast are capable of doing the savage content and some already have. The content has been setup to allow any reasonable job combination to be viable. If a "job" is making or breaking your team you need to reanalyze your strategy or your healers abilities. My team has went double ast (a less than desirable setup imo as id rather have a whm as other healer) thru just about every piece of content in this game and not had an issue with heals at all. So long as the healers know how to play the job it's a non-issue. The same thing goes for drk.

    Now I will agree that my statics ast thinks they could use some buffs and changes and she was extremely happy with the ones that were just dropped,) but lets not pretend that because some people cannot efficiently play a class or it hasn't been mastered in 28 days that its fundamentally broken and incapable of raiding when people have already raided it successfully in various party make ups.
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