Who do you think will get the Black mage job? CON or THM

[Perrin_Aybarra]

They said that Red mage would be CON/THM together so no.

BLM would be THM hands down you most level up conj to get the nuke from it.

They said it was just an exemple or I even think it was Reinheart's exemple, he would have to confirm. So maybe RDM will be by unlocking WHM and BLM and reach a certain level of GLA which would make sense.

[Commat]

They said it was just an exemple or I even think it was Reinheart's exemple, he would have to confirm. So maybe RDM will be by unlocking WHM and BLM and reach a certain level of GLA which would make sense.

Off topic but I would really really appreciate if RDM was saved and given to Fencer.

Please SE,
Love Commat

[DNO]

Oh, I don't mean to blame you for anything. I may have come across aggressive but I just wanted to clarify to the readers what the official facts are vs where the speculation begins.

At this point your guess is as good as mine. I just say there is no proof of BLM coming first. There is proof that BLM is coming (AF gear, finalized name, etc.)

cool we agree to disagree.

Now lets make a friendly bet for fun!!!!!!
BLM is coming first!!!! that will be fun lol

[Felis]

I don't think that THM would get RDM all for himself. RDM use rapiers, THM not.
I think Fencer + THM = RDM or Fencer = RDM
Of course after SE put Fencer ingame ^^

[Zenaku]

They said it was just an exemple or I even think it was Reinheart's exemple, he would have to confirm. So maybe RDM will be by unlocking WHM and BLM and reach a certain level of GLA which would make sense.

Even if it was a Example they display the jobs that are coming out and Red mage was not one of them which mean later they would release red mage. I still stand by saying THM would be the Black mage.

Red mage should be GLD,THM,CONJ seeing how it a mix of all 3 but don't know if SE want to make it that hard to be a red mage but then again every by now have a few 30+ lol

[Alise]

I think they're both very poorly suited to exclusively receive BLM without some major changes to the spells they can cast.

A class that gets Flare not leading to BLM is stupid, but it would be just as stupid to give it to the one that has lower damage output and all the best curative spells. The problem is compounded by conjurers worshiping the elementals in the Twelveswood and thus needing access to elemental magic for lore purposes. I know people with the classes already leveled would rage, but I think they should pretty much rebuild the class spell lists completely before they make either one lead to BLM or WHM.

I think the best solution would actually be to give cure spells over to THM, since lore-wise they deal with life and death, make it the class that leads to WHM, buff CON damage and make it the one that gets BLM. Basically reverse what they did with 1.18. I personally didn't raise up THM to heal myself, so it would be a personal setback, but one I think would be best for the game and keeping with lore.

Edit: I suppose I would also accept CON leading to both WHM and BLM but severely restricting spell usage, but the comment from the developers about one job for each existing class has me doubting they'll do this.

heh, I agree with you!, I think THM as life and death + they also have guild in church! So it is good idea to have them be the style of "light"(healing spell, light attack spell, holy, raise kills undead) and "Dark"(strong damage spell with DoT effects, and give him some instant death effect spell) When upgrade into job, they should be able to get white or time mage.

[Mortikhan]

a theory as good as any other maybe, but we assume the jobs will draw abilities from its inherent class because the only thing they did confirm what that Gladiator > Paladin. So based on that I think we can assume that the base class is somewhat related to the job it unlocks and that Marauder unlocking WHM or any type of mage job is probably out of the question.

I was more giving that as an exaggeration to the point I was making that even though Marauder was used to unlock WHM the class of Marauder would have nothing to do with the actual skills of the WHM. As far as it not happening...hmmm...I would not be so sure about that. They said a lot of things so far but those things could change. I will point to the fact that all stat boosting traits are guildmark purchases from opposing schools (i.e. the traditional stats that would help a DoM are purchased through DoW guilds and vice versa.). Makes you wonder .

[Archadius]

This argument is still going on? ; ;

[Jinrya-Geki]

Copy and Paste!

If anything Conjurer is more related to Scholar, than either black mage or white mage.

But here are the key abilities to thinking Conjurer will be Black Mage: Flare, Burst, Quake, Freeze, and Tornado. Only black mage has ever received, and used these abilties (other than bosses).

By some people saying Cure, protect, shell, and raise makes that job specifically a white mage. What other jobs can use those? Paladin, Scholar, and Red Mage.

So 5 key abilities that can only be used by 1 specific job vs 4 basic abilities that 4 job can use.

[Alcide]

I really fail to understand why people is still arguing about what Thau and Conj can cast right now... they already stated they're gonna reassign skills in 1.19 and 1.20 and that DoM are gonna have the major changes.

IMHO the only thing we should consider in this discussion is the lore.