Who do you think will get the Black mage job? CON or THM

[Perrin_Aybarra]

WAR and THF are also very basic jobs, yet neither is on the list of 6 confirmed ones, but BRD is? lol

Yeah, can't wait for more info on that. I can see Marauders get Warrior, THF would need another class to be put in it seems.

[Mortikhan]

This is a theory so don't burn me to the ground on this but...

A lot of this is based on "What Job will belong to what Class?"

I think that is purely irrelevant. I think the unlocking part is 5% of the issue. The real question to me is what classes will those jobs draw traits and skills from. I could say that in order to unlock WHM you have to level Marauder. WHM would still draw its powers and traits from Thaumaturge and Conjurer though so what difference does it make what class unlocks it? ALL of the base abilities are going to be drawn from the classes. The jobs themselves (as stated by the devs) are going to have inherent abilities that you will need to quest for. They will be more focused in their tasks than the classes and more than likely bring more bang for their buck to the table.

I guess what I am saying is that people are thinking that a job unlock hooked to a class will determine its primary role when I think it will matter very little if they plan on keeping the armory system in play. I think it will matter after they choose their role and have limitations that do not allow them to choose certain aspects from other classes they are used to having access to. What they allow people to select from the classes will be the real tell tale of what role that job will serve. We will see a higher regard for people serving their role in a party in order to make it function efficiently and more party play overall. The balancing aspect will be to make sure that job has a place in a party so as to not see the prejudices occur like they did in FFXI.

[Perrin_Aybarra]

This is a theory so don't burn me to the ground on this but...

A lot of this is based on "What Job will belong to what Class?"

I think that is purely irrelevant. I think the unlocking part is 5% of the issue. The real question to me is what classes will those jobs draw traits and skills from. I could say that in order to unlock WHM you have to level Marauder. WHM would still draw its powers and traits from Thaumaturge and Conjurer though so what difference does it make what class unlocks it? ALL of the base abilities are going to be drawn from the classes. The jobs themselves (as stated by the devs) are going to have inherent abilities that you will need to quest for. They will be more focused in their tasks than the classes and more than likely bring more bang for their buck to the table.

I guess what I am saying is that people are thinking that a job unlock hooked to a class will determine its primary role when I think it will matter very little if they plan on keeping the armory system in play. I think it will matter after they choose their role and have limitations that do not allow them to choose certain aspects from other classes they are used to having access to. What they allow people to select from the classes will be the real tell tale of what role that job will serve We will see a higher regard for people serving their role in a party in order to make it function efficiently and more party play overall.

a theory as good as any other maybe, but we assume the jobs will draw abilities from its inherent class because the only thing they did confirm what that Gladiator > Paladin. So based on that I think we can assume that the base class is somewhat related to the job it unlocks and that Marauder unlocking WHM or any type of mage job is probably out of the question.

[NoctisUmbra]

ahh i see. and i agree. look i may be wrong who knows but with BLM AF coming BLM being metioned by the devs are finalized "names" for a job system and 1 class per job (err vice versa) you can not blame me for thinking that way. Just because it was not confirmed does not mean these are not the first jobs. but mab they are not who knows.

all im saying is that there is more proof (imo) to blm coming first then not. As i said b4 i could be wrong but i do not think i am.

Oh, I don't mean to blame you for anything. I may have come across aggressive but I just wanted to clarify to the readers what the official facts are vs where the speculation begins.

At this point your guess is as good as mine. I just say there is no proof of BLM coming first. There is proof that BLM is coming (AF gear, finalized name, etc.)

[Archadius]

This shit is all FUBAR and it's totally SE's fault for not being explicitly detailed in their posts so as to remove speculation.

[CreedFallenwing]

the only way i can see SE giving elemental based spells to THM is if it does two things.
1: the spell has to relate to the lore of THM being a mage of life and death
2: the spell would have to have an enfeebling or buffing effect to it.

think of the elementalist (which played a role similar to THM) job back in tactics A and A2. white flame healed you're party member (could add a buff too), shining air damaged and occasionally inflected blind, sliprain damaged and slowed, Thunderous Roar damaged and inflicted silence, etc. if SE wanted to put blm on thm they could do it this way. they would just have to change the thm spells a little

[Altera]

Ive always seen Fire, Water, Earth Wind magic listed as Black Magic, so I would personally be a bit disappointed if CONs ends up becoming the White Mage and the THM with Life and Death magic becomes the BLM.
Some in my LS whos played FFXI since launch tells me to not worry and that Con will be a DD. I just hope she is right on that

[Perrin_Aybarra]

the only way i can see SE giving elemental based spells to THM is if it does two things.
1: the spell has to relate to the lore of THM being a mage of life and death
2: the spell would have to have an enfeebling or buffing effect to it.

think of the elementalist (which played a role similar to THM) job back in tactics A and A2. white flame healed you're party member (could add a buff too), shining air damaged and occasionally inflected blind, sliprain damaged and slowed, Thunderous Roar damaged and inflicted silence, etc. if SE wanted to put blm on thm they could do it this way. they would just have to change the thm spells a little

Wouldn't these type of elemental+status effect be more suitable to the geomancer job?

[Zenaku]

In the future each Class will have more than 1 job. Con might be WHM and THM something else like RDM. Nothing about THM speaks BLM to me other than 2 elements..

They said that Red mage would be CON/THM together so no.

BLM would be THM hands down you most level up conj to get the nuke from it.

[Estellios]

They said that Red mage would be CON/THM together so no.

BLM would be THM hands down you most level up conj to get the nuke from it.

They only gave this as an example of what they could do for multiclass jobs, not that this combo was set in stone. I'm kinda hoping it would be GLA and CON so it would be old school rdm =P