Boring Endgame

[ExponentialDecay]

Areas with puzzles that you have to figure out - like walk three steps forward, jump left, run forward, mount Chocobo to make bigger jump but don't fly. Or, to open this dungeon, you have to find the four numbers exclusive to you in 40 different possible locations based on clues.

lol, this sounds really dumb + bad

The appearace of the characters was your only gripe?

It's a 10 year old game. That's like faulting FFXI for the same reason.

(And honestly the new character models are sort of a train wreck. Some turned out great, but others need serious facial adjustment)

wow looked bad back in 2003

I was thinking more along the lines of, let's say, how you can enter dungeons undersized. Except you could go from solo to max amount of party members and even form some sort of alliance or whatever with another party to tackle it together, but it's not required to be a certain size. It would be done for end game content rather than old game content. Imagine a hunt that is party restricted because you have the wanted poster - other parties can't attack it but you can and you can either form a party or decide to go after it solo. It would be designed for eight max but can be done from 1 to 8. Open world so no ring lines. That kind of thing which I understand is different.

so u want a boss leve? okay, u could have just said that instead of all those words

PvE encounters intrinsically have no replay value once you figure out the mechanics and how to beat them. This would be no different in any other MMO you play, it's just the nature of PvE...

this is a p foolish statement. ur saying story-based games have no replay value and that's just false on its face

[Zabuza]

this is a p foolish statement. ur saying story-based games have no replay value and that's just false on its face

Ok, please elaborate in detail how it is false. Let's take out the rewards from the PvE encounters in any game. Are you telling me you would want to do them over and over if we did that? How many times could you do that before becoming bored?

[SonTensei]

Basically what im reading through peoples responses are 1. Folks that agree and 2. Folks who think there is plenty of stuff to do.

Well If i analyze the situation from a business perspective, i suppose it is good business to keep the majority of your subscribers happy. In FF14 case, a vast majority of the subs are people who really dont care about raiding so much. In that regard its probably pointless to get your hopes up about anything outside the box, its safer for them to remain cookie cutter with everything.

If one customer base makes me (A)$1000/hr and the other customer base makes me (B)$100/hr im going to make sure the $1000/hr customer is happy first... if i lose a few of the $100/hr customers, so what its the cost of doing business and keeping my (A) segment customers happy.