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    No we don't need to give tanks more reason to use strength accessories. Tanks don't need strength to keep hate they just need what's the words people use alot on these forums oh that's right they need to get good. Instead of saying I need more strength to keep hate. So I need strength accessories. If tanks would truly learn to tank they would come to realize that they don't need strength accessories after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogasan View Post
    No we don't need to give tanks more reason to use strength accessories. Tanks don't need strength to keep hate they just need what's the words people use alot on these forums oh that's right they need to get good. Instead of saying I need more strength to keep hate. So I need strength accessories. If tanks would truly learn to tank they would come to realize that they don't need strength accessories after all.
    Using the same logic, I can say that if healers learned how to heal and tanks learned how to use cooldowns, tanks wouldn't need to use vitality accessories at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destomius View Post
    Using the same logic, I can say that if healers learned how to heal and tanks learned how to use cooldowns, tanks wouldn't need to use vitality accessories at all.
    Several high damage skills would disagree with that logic.

    Honestly we really don't need gear swaps. There aren't many jobs which would even benefit from this, since everything revolves around a single stat for most jobs. For healers, we have Cleric's Stance to swap between heals and damage and DPS are focused on only a single main stat. All this tanking debate has really done is separate the tanks who tank and the tanks who still think they're a DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Several high damage skills would disagree with that logic.

    Honestly we really don't need gear swaps. There aren't many jobs which would even benefit from this, since everything revolves around a single stat for most jobs. For healers, we have Cleric's Stance to swap between heals and damage and DPS are focused on only a single main stat. All this tanking debate has really done is separate the tanks who tank and the tanks who still think they're a DPS.
    If a tank uses their cooldowns optimally and has proper healing/mitigation from the healers and still cannot survive, then there's a need for Vitality accessories. There's currently no fights in the game where that applies, unless you're undergeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destomius View Post
    If a tank uses their cooldowns optimally and has proper healing/mitigation from the healers and still cannot survive, then there's a need for Vitality accessories. There's currently no fights in the game where that applies, unless you're undergeared.
    Iron Giant. Fractal Continuum. Near death. Deals an attack capable of dealing 15,000 damage in 2 seconds. Techncially, it's two hits but in quick succession. Get an unlucky crit with the big hitter and your tank is going down. Even VIT tanks feel the punishment of that blow.

    I've seen more tanks die to that than anything else in the entire dungeon.

    At any rate, not to derail the thread my other points still stand. There's not enough stats to make gear swapping useful or necessary. Maybe if we had some more unique skills (Enhances Rampart) it would be worth a look, but I think we've got more chance of Y'shtola quitting the scions to become a pole dancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    Several high damage skills would disagree with that logic.

    Honestly we really don't need gear swaps. There aren't many jobs which would even benefit from this, since everything revolves around a single stat for most jobs. For healers, we have Cleric's Stance to swap between heals and damage and DPS are focused on only a single main stat. All this tanking debate has really done is separate the tanks who tank and the tanks who still think they're a DPS.
    I agree with you. To the tanks that think they need strength to tank maybe you should rethink your role.
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