So Thursday's maintenance is supposed to bring crafting/gardening adjustments...

[Hypie]

Okay, so, let's say they made the materials requirement a bit lower for levels 50-60. Great!

Now, would you level the crafting classes now that it was made easier in order to make your desired items?

No, of course not. You'd watch the market for those items until the price plummeted enough to where you could happily buy the item. You don't want the material requirements lowered so that you could level the craft yourself, you want it so that you can buy the item you want more cheaply, so that you can retain the rest of your money for other things.

No matter how you twist it, what you're asking for is as selfish as you're claiming crafters are.

Until you admit that, you're even worse than these purportedly greedy crafters all over this thread. At least most of them admitted they just want to feel like they gained ample compensation for their time and effort spent leveling crafting to be able to create the items they sell. Meanwhile, you continue to imply that you're arguing for the folks who can't afford the items being sold and point your finger and all the blame at those "greedy crafters", all the while actually pining for cheaper prices for all only for the sake of your own pockets. You want it cheaper for yourself. It being cheaper for everyone else is just a nice side effect.

Stop being self-righteous. Stop being hypocritical. And then maybe - just maybe - you could get people to actually agree with you.

That's not entirely true. If would see real change...and i meant REAL Change not like...

Example Patchnotes:

-We raised the Dropquota for All Crafting Stuff for 6%

Then i would race Level Crafting. I enjoy a good reasonable Crafting System. You know i invested a whole Day for all that Crafting Stuff and yes i'm not unbiased because of my entire negative Experience with Crafters(and these Exp continously pills up every day) it's just...can you understand that players whos entire contact with crafters was a negatively experience can hardly agree that crafters are "good people"?

All that "good and bad" aside it doesn't changes the Fact that the System is not really viable for the Mass and its heavy punishing to Players interested in Crafting. And let's be honest Heavensward is a Addon that is tailored to get more broad Base to play XIV (i can't understand how they want to achieve that locking it behind arr story but thats another story). Such a outdated System no longer works.

I already pointed out Ways how Crafting could be opened up more on several Threads (all dead now) but all i got was "He is just too lazy" The Frustation, the Anger it bursted out here when the same discussion brewed up again. In i am really really REALLY fed up saying the same Stuff over and over again. It's like you talk to Wall...

Then obviously this game is too hard for you to enjoy it since you don't understand how the game works. What better ways to complain the system is broken rather than trying to get your ass out there and earn some gil. And honestly i wonder who the bird brain is, when obviously you can't use a certain percentage of it to earn gil in this game which is one of the easiest aspect of the game. It's hilarious to watch you defend yourself and throwing insults at crafters.

I do understand how the Game works. Do you enjoy killing Mobs over and over and over and over for getting Materials? I do not. And you do not. That's why you buy it from the MB. And this Spirals up the Price. Or you send your faithful poor Retainers out without Rest to get you Materials (attention black humor buff active).

There are so many bitter, poor people in this thread. So many.

Actually i sit on a Gil Mountain of 12 Million Gil....used the MB ONCE for buying the Axe for the Bravura Questchain. And no i don't RMT.It just piled up doing Quests, Fates and selling all that Crap that the Monsters drop to the NPC *shrugs*, yes i did know i could have made even more Gil but i won't support the current Crafting System.

Not because of the Crafters (i got whacked by Friends =_=") but because i don't want to feed such a outdated System.