Curious on opinion. Smn or Mch. Which would you pick?

[RiceisNice]

Y...

Realistically speaking, if you're in a raid group with other people, you stick with one role. Freshly getting to lvl 60 will take some time to gear up one class, let alone two. If you're playing with a raid group, you shouldn't have to "have a melee class incase we don't need ranged", because you'd intially join the group as a ranged class to begin with.

[pandabearcat]

Yarr, far better to gear both of one type of class (though hilarious, all 3 melee dps use different armor LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL).

For example, I'm gearing all 3 tanks.

[FreeLancer4]

If your wanting to go with a melee at some point or just to have it on hand, Ninja would probably be the more practical as it shares Accessories with MCH, which it sounds like your enjoying.

[Renryuu]

Well to be honest, I quite dislike the melee aspect of dps. As much as I've tried since 2.0 to get into melee, I always end up going back to range, specifically Blm and Smn. Mch is actually the first job since I can actually see me giving up on Smn/Blm and going full time, but at the same time I use to WoW where people tend to favor certain dps classes/specs over others due to wanting the most dps possible to down bosses and ignoring those that were on the low end of the spectrum regardless of how skilled a person can be. I used to love Hunter but then had to go Warlock and then finally quit WoW entirely as a Mage since I just wasn't having fun anymore and hated constantly swapping specs/jobs just to satisfy groups to ensure I could always be a welcome addition while not being a hindrance.

I face the same issue here where I'm torn between Smn/Blm and Mch I do very well with Smn/Blm and have more fun with Mch (though more cause it makes me feel Megamanish in a way) and we do have several bards in our guild already and a couple of Smn with me being the only real Blm player (at least one that knows the job well enough). I just adore these 3 jobs (though Blm a little less with how tight Enochian + AF/UI can be) and at the same time I can't really just swap between all 3 whenever as that is what made me eventually quit my last MMO. I much prefer being a master of one than a jack of several.

[Korashy]

Both MCH and BRD can push comparable numbers to other dps classes, just not if other people want to also have them support.

[Greywolfamakir]

It isn't really a burden when the class is played well. Many who complain are just simply bad at the job. Its not on top by no means, but if your failing dps checks, either your party is lacking or more knowledge/practice is needed on your part.

omg...this doesn't have sense for me...MCH and BRD does less Damage than other Jobs because Guns and Bows have less Weapon Damage than the others weapons...

People think like "If You are crying about MCH saying that You do less damage than others jobs, You are bad MCH, You dont know how to use him becouse When I play MCH in Duty Finder or with my Static, I'm Top DPS !!"...omg...Your static sucks men !!!
If You are a good player and You play with good players too, You are gonna do the worst damage of the group...AT THE SAME SKILL LEVEL...I don't give a shit duty finder DPS...I'm top DPS in every Ravana Ext in DF, then, is MCH the highest DPS of the world ????? no...people are just bad...

[Greywolfamakir]

Both MCH and BRD can push comparable numbers to other dps classes, just not if other people want to also have them support.

/clap
Archer 7 MCH 0
/clap

Now tell us how You saw a BRD or a MCH doing the same DPS than You with NIN...
/clap

[Kona_Nightwind]

omg...this doesn't have sense for me...MCH and BRD does less Damage than other Jobs because Guns and Bows have less Weapon Damage than the others weapons...

People think like "If You are crying about MCH saying that You do less damage than others jobs, You are bad MCH, You dont know how to use him becouse When I play MCH in Duty Finder or with my Static, I'm Top DPS !!"...omg...Your static sucks men !!!
If You are a good player and You play with good players too, You are gonna do the worst damage of the group...AT THE SAME SKILL LEVEL...I don't give a shit duty finder DPS...I'm top DPS in every Ravana Ext in DF, then, is MCH the highest DPS of the world ????? no...people are just bad...

If you count the dps other classes gain from a properly played support class than they don't do less dps.

[Greywolfamakir]

If you count the dps other classes gain from a properly played support class than they don't do less dps.

If We do that, DRG and NIN are the best Supports ever. Battle Litany + Trick Attack.
At the moment my party doesn't need TP or MP, I got tired to be a burden for my team and I'm playing like NIN every encounter, and I'm doing the best support like NIN, every 60 seconds, all my mates do +10% damage, and I'm top/second DPS...THAT IS TRUE SUPPORT !!!!

[Kona_Nightwind]

If We do that, DRG and NIN are the best Supports ever. Battle Litany + Trick Attack.
At the moment my party doesn't need TP or MP, I got tired to be a burden for my team and I'm playing like NIN every encounter, and I'm doing the best support like NIN, every 60 seconds, all my mates do +10% damage, and I'm top/second DPS...THAT IS TRUE SUPPORT !!!!

I was trying to make it simple. Mch/BRD dps buff uptime is a lot more than those other classes. If you take into account all the utility, most groups in savage will bring them for progression. All current content can be cleared with every class so what's the problem.