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    The comments for anyone interested.

    In an upcoming patch, we’ll be adding a feature that allows you to act as a mercenary for the opposite faction in PvP. Whenever your faction is experiencing a long wait time to get into Ashran or unrated Battlegrounds, agents of the enemy faction will appear in your base in Ashran (Stormshield for the Alliance, Warspear for the Horde). These agents will allow you to enter Ashran or Battlegrounds disguised as an enemy player, and actually fight as the opposite faction.

    When you compete as a mercenary, you’ll still earn all the same rewards you would have by winning or losing as your own faction (with the exception of faction-specific achievements). You’ll also have your race automatically changed into one appropriate for the opposite faction while you’re still inside the Battleground or Ashran. Perhaps most importantly, however, you’ll experience much shorter queue times, as our matchmaking system will be able to fill up groups much quicker!

    These are comments from another game. It seems that sometimes even the best hoped for PvP doesn't take off as you wish. Then you need to look for solutions to help the players that enjoy the content move forward. The real question is it Lore based decision or they hiding something they can't fix or won't fix.
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    Last edited by Stormrider; 07-17-2015 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    These are comments from another game. It seems that sometimes even the best hoped for PvP doesn't take off as you wish. Then you need to look for solutions to help the players that enjoy the content move forward. The real question is it Lore based decision or they hiding something they can't fix or won't fix.
    That's hardly even in question. It's lore-based. They don't want to "ruin" their lore for the PvP, or even change it. There's no realistic technical/programming reason as to why this cannot be done unless the game's programming is terribly modularized.
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    You must be new here. They have made some bad design decisions along the way to this point. At this point it seems a more viable reason. The finder system has some serious flaws they refuse to acknowledge or discuss and that ha nothing even to do with GC's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    You must be new here. They have made some bad design decisions along the way to this point. At this point it seems a more viable reason. The finder system has some serious flaws they refuse to acknowledge or discuss and that ha nothing even to do with GC's.
    thats true, but the GC system is currently the largest factor in terrible queue times, not the issues with the finder system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
    You must be new here. They have made some bad design decisions along the way to this point. At this point it seems a more viable reason. The finder system has some serious flaws they refuse to acknowledge or discuss and that ha nothing even to do with GC's.
    Not as new as you might think.

    As a programmer (in training, anyway), I know that there's a certain level of stupid decision making that must go into the design in order to back yourself into an unfixable issue as you suggested they may have run into. Nothing SE has done indicates that they're that bad even at their worst. They would have had to try their damnedest to break their grouping system so badly that they can't even change it to ignore GC requirements entirely. A programming or design issue with the queue/grouping system for Frontlines is very, very, extremely unlikely the reason they have not yet removed the GC restrictions.

    Frontlines were introduced GC-locked. The explained lore practically requires it be that way. It's far more likely than anything else that the reason they haven't removed their GC restrictions for Frontlines is simply their desire to retain the current lore as it is. SE has always been big on their game lore, so it's definitely something I can see the company doing.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 07-18-2015 at 04:22 PM. Reason: Clarified a point

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    Then what we can do? Let play? don't pay massively? All pvers send a reclamation? SE is moved to money as other companyies, and if i know well FFXIV is a game "designed" by jappanese gamers, we the pvpers are a fraction of their clients but maybe if all being together and do something coordinately SE will be forced to hear us and delete this really stupid GC restriction. Is not our problem if they had wrong dessing, programmers, or whatelse, we play, we pay, and have the right to demand a good pvp mode with massive less timeouts as now
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    The mercenary would be a great work around. There is deception in each company I'm sure. I think something like that would go along with the way things go in GC's in terms of betrayal but also keep the lore.

    It would let those who want to be a mercenary go into the Immortal Flames or Adders but at the same time someone like me who wouldn't dare go to another GC to help them out stay and keep my wait times because I'm a heavy lore based player.

    On the other hand if they take away the whole restrictions as long as they let me see when I'm teamed with a Flame or Adder, I can turn to them and attack. I mean once they helped me gather the data they're no use to me..a quick fluid aura off a cliff while bombarding them with stone III into the sea where it will swallow them whole is a fitting way to say "Thanks." because who knows who they might join with next!

    Seriously though, I can see how taking away the GC part could help, but I do love the mercenary idea.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 07-18-2015 at 12:44 AM.