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    Why Didn't the Ascian... (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

    So I may have come a bit unprepared when making this post as I'm not sure of the particular Ascian's name off the top of my head, but here goes...



    I'm really surprised that the Ascian who shows up with the archbishop at the end of the Bismarck story fight doesn't just throw us off the floating island. I was thinking about it today. He easily lifts us up and holds us in place with his dark magic whilst they steal our hard-earned key...but why does he not just flick his wrist and send us flying off this tiny flying island's edge?

    To my understanding, it's doubtable that Cid would have been able to come to our rescue while falling since he was towing the aforementioned island. I don't think we could have summoned a flying mount while falling since you can't summon a mount whilst jumping or falling in the overworld. I suppose you could argue we could teleport since we can do that in the air now, though we still can't do that while falling from, say, a cliff.

    Again, it just sort of seems like it would have been an easy thing within this Ascian's power to do...even if he wasn't sure it'd actually kill us, it'd get us out of the way for a bit. I know there's a thousand "what ifs" but I just thought this one was kind of fun since it just came to mind. Were there any other obvious kill-shots the Ascian's haven't taken at us yet that maybe I just don't remember? Curious to hear what you guys think on it!
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    You misunderstand- We cant summon our Gryphon while running/falling because it's Mechanic Bound. In a Cutszene there are whole other Laws active such as summoning your trusty Gryphon/Chocobo. Same with Teleporting to the nearest Aetheryt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    So I may have come a bit unprepared when making this post as I'm not sure of the particular Ascian's name off the top of my head, but here goes...



    I'm really surprised that the Ascian who shows up with the archbishop at the end of the Bismarck story fight doesn't just throw us off the floating island. I was thinking about it today. He easily lifts us up and holds us in place with his dark magic whilst they steal our hard-earned key...but why does he not just flick his wrist and send us flying off this tiny flying island's edge?

    To my understanding, it's doubtable that Cid would have been able to come to our rescue while falling since he was towing the aforementioned island. I don't think we could have summoned a flying mount while falling since you can't summon a mount whilst jumping or falling in the overworld. I suppose you could argue we could teleport since we can do that in the air now, though we still can't do that while falling from, say, a cliff.

    Again, it just sort of seems like it would have been an easy thing within this Ascian's power to do...even if he wasn't sure it'd actually kill us, it'd get us out of the way for a bit. I know there's a thousand "what ifs" but I just thought this one was kind of fun since it just came to mind. Were there any other obvious kill-shots the Ascian's haven't taken at us yet that maybe I just don't remember? Curious to hear what you guys think on it!
    im sure there have been plenty of times but i imagine (going off what nabrialis said about not killing minfilia) that they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
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    It's just a generic japanese cliché when the bad guy TP next to the hero, do his evil thingy and run away while the hero do nothing.

    Remind me of Fire emblem Blazing Sword, and Ephidel kidnapping Ninian in the middle of our army while everyone watch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    im sure there have been plenty of times but i imagine (going off what nabrialis said about not killing minfilia) that they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
    Ah! That's true. I had forgotten about that part. That very well may be the case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    You misunderstand- We cant summon our Gryphon while running/falling because it's Mechanic Bound. In a Cutszene there are whole other Laws active such as summoning your trusty Gryphon/Chocobo. Same with Teleporting to the nearest Aetheryt.
    Ah, I understand where you're coming from. The way I always thought of it was that we couldn't teleport while falling or running because the Teleport Spell takes quite a bit of concentration, and you'd have to be in a still, safe place before attempting it. Which is why we can't port while in combat or skydiving haha. With mounts I just assumed it was something similar, since you can't summon them in battle either; it just needs to be a "safe" place to bring them out.
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    Last edited by CodeCass; 07-17-2015 at 01:41 AM. Reason: grammer
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    I don't think we could have summoned a flying mount while falling since you can't summon a mount whilst jumping or falling in the overworld.


    FF10 <3

    If only we could do this in 14 one day it would so cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    they are afraid of elidibus going "ELIDIBUS SMASH" on them...
    Hm true, Elidibus does want to keep us alive for some reason, even though he then calls
    The Warrior of Darkness
    to take care of us. Make up your mind buddy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talia_Hailwind View Post


    FF10 <3

    If only we could do this in 14 one day it would so cool
    I just had this vision of a SMN summoning Garuda to replicate this scene....only the Egi is too small and we just slam into it, taking it with us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CodeCass View Post
    -snip-
    the ascian did say that we were actively resisting their hold. maybe the blessing kept them from killing us completely?

    or maybe they just want us alive. like someone else said..."Elidibus smash"


    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    It's just a generic japanese cliché when the bad guy TP next to the hero, do his evil thingy and run away while the hero do nothing.

    Remind me of Fire emblem Blazing Sword, and Ephidel kidnapping Ninian in the middle of our army while everyone watch...
    ugh, don't remind me.
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