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  1. #91
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    SakuraMidori's Avatar
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    feeling like you are constantly behind all the time and not getting any closer to the end is not the definition of "fun" last I checked. Even the 50 dungeons/primals arn't fun anymore since it's just full of vastly overgeared people.
    Huh? this is every mmo you don't start on day 1 lol any mmorpg you start after a year or 2 will be the same. Sure not locked by a story but you will be behind and everyone will be vastly overgeared why? because ppl have been there much longer then you lol {wow killed things when giving players a boost to 90} If your new lvl up your supposed to look at ppl with high lvl gear and say oooooooooo if i work hard ill look like that. Not play till 40 and say waaaaaaaa i quit
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  2. #92
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    Psycho Bunny
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    Quote Originally Posted by SakuraMidori View Post
    Huh? this is every mmo you don't start on day 1 lol any mmorpg you start after a year or 2 will be the same. Sure not locked by a story but you will be behind and everyone will be vastly overgeared why? because ppl have been there much longer then you lol {wow killed things when giving players a boost to 90} If your new lvl up your supposed to look at ppl with high lvl gear and say oooooooooo if i work hard ill look like that. Not play till 40 and say waaaaaaaa i quit
    This is exactly true. At the end of the day what is the point of this game? There's no real end point, it's all about bettering yourself, getting better gear, adding other classes, trying new things, etc. To be like oh you bought the expansion, here's your free pass to 60 as well as a bunch of level 150 gear, enjoy! Would make no sense, like why bother playing? It's the progression that makes the whole game fun. I couldn't wait to get to 50, seeing glamour, 8 person dungeons, etc ,so for me I always want something to be working towards.
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  3. #93
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    justinjarjar's Avatar
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    Kitty Monsk
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    This is exactly true. At the end of the day what is the point of this game? There's no real end point, it's all about bettering yourself, getting better gear, adding other classes, trying new things, etc. To be like oh you bought the expansion, here's your free pass to 60 as well as a bunch of level 150 gear, enjoy! Would make no sense, like why bother playing? It's the progression that makes the whole game fun. I couldn't wait to get to 50, seeing glamour, 8 person dungeons, etc ,so for me I always want something to be working towards.
    Hit it right on the nose, progression and enjoying the leveling experience.
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  4. #94
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    Dacien Sanderon
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    That part would be fantastic. Who wouldn't want a game that has a ton of content that can keep you productively advancing your character for such a long time before getting stuck at the end where all that's left is just grinding the same old thing over and over.
    Uh, that's like saying that no one should ever play the latest game because gosh, there's all those old games for super cheap or even free that they can play! How awesome!

    People don't play MMO's to run old content. Ever. This isn't a single player game. This is a genre where people like to progress in the latest content along with all the other players and face new challenges that the developers create.
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  5. #95
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ortamus View Post
    If you went onto the PS Store and looked up Final Fantasy XIV one of the first things thrown in your face is the Heavensward bundle. Naturally, many people will look at this with no chance of knowing they had to complete all of 2.0 and buy it as it is the most recent addition of the game.
    But it clearly calls it a bundle and indicates that you're buying both the base game (FFXIV:ARR) and the Heavensward expansion. Or if you buy the Heavensward expansion by itself, it clearly states that the expansion requires you to also have the base game. Either way makes it clearly obvious that the ARR part comes first.
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  6. #96
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinjarjar View Post
    Hit it right on the nose, progression and enjoying the leveling experience.
    And the best part is that no one has to do it more then once unless they want to.

    Having said that I would like to see some of the boring fetch quests reworked.
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  7. #97
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    Dacien Sanderon
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    This is exactly true. At the end of the day what is the point of this game? There's no real end point, it's all about bettering yourself, getting better gear, adding other classes, trying new things, etc. To be like oh you bought the expansion, here's your free pass to 60 as well as a bunch of level 150 gear, enjoy! Would make no sense, like why bother playing? It's the progression that makes the whole game fun. I couldn't wait to get to 50, seeing glamour, 8 person dungeons, etc ,so for me I always want something to be working towards.
    If progression were all that made it fun no one would play MMOs because you can get that same experience playing any single player game out there. Also, progressing in 3 year old content is not the same as progressing in something just released in the patch notes that is blasted all over the website and forums.
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  8. #98
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    Tahlia Panipahr
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DacienSanderon View Post
    Uh, that's like saying that no one should ever play the latest game because gosh, there's all those old games for super cheap or even free that they can play! How awesome!

    People don't play MMO's to run old content. Ever. This isn't a single player game. This is a genre where people like to progress in the latest content along with all the other players and face new challenges that the developers create.
    I play to run old content. You're wrong and dont get to speak for me. Sorry.
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  9. #99
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    Dacien Sanderon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    But it clearly calls it a bundle and indicates that you're buying both the base game (FFXIV:ARR) and the Heavensward expansion. Or if you buy the Heavensward expansion by itself, it clearly states that the expansion requires you to also have the base game. Either way makes it clearly obvious that the ARR part comes first.
    Yes, so any normal person in a normal MMO would think they'd be leveling through the ARR part of the game then enjoying the content the expansion has to offer. What the website should say is this:

    WARNING: YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY EXPANSION CONTENT UNTIL YOU HAVE COMPLETED ALL OF THE ARR CONTENT, WHICH MAY TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS.
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  10. #100
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    Kitty Monsk
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    And the best part is that no one has to do it more then once unless they want to.

    Having said that I would like to see some of the boring fetch quests reworked.
    I agree, but I want to see more Job balance and new content over old fetch quests being reworked. (then again I am done with the old ones at this point)

    And DacienSanderon.... I like doing old content and trying it over geared... and soloing it.... am I not playing the game right owww noooo. (and several months lol maybe a month max). Either way you realize this is a Final Fantasy game right? Or are you in this for just the MMO part? At this point you just sound like an elitist who only wants to do the "hardest new thing" and no one doing anything else matters.
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    Last edited by justinjarjar; 07-16-2015 at 03:19 AM.

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