being new and @ level 50 is killing my interest

[DacienSanderon]

The only other MMO I've played extensively works similarly. LOTRO's first expansion requires leveling through the base game first. Then each successive expansion starts at the endgame level of the previous one. (Though to allow for players getting some expansions and not others, there are between-expansion updates to the main game to provide alternate leveling paths.) But you can't start any of the expansions from the beginning of the game.

Having played LOTRO this isn't true. Each successive expansion does not start at the endgame. It starts at the end level. That means you level to the old cap and start leveling in the expansion content without having to do the old raids etc. Just like nearly (I only say that because there might be an exception) every MMO out there.

[Verdan]

The only other MMO I've played extensively works similarly. LOTRO's first expansion requires leveling through the base game first. Then each successive expansion starts at the endgame level of the previous one. (Though to allow for players getting some expansions and not others, there are between-expansion updates to the main game to provide alternate leveling paths.) But you can't start any of the expansions from the beginning of the game.

Dawg I was gathering scholar nodes in Rohan even when I didn't have that expansion;and the closest things to a hard story gate(Moria/Mirkwood) let you pick up the quests to get in even if you didn't finish any of the ones before them. If there's another game out there that requires you to go through months worth of story content to even get to the new expansion area, it's something I can't imagine many people know about.

And keep in mind, this isn't just leveling up. It's going through the story quests that don't even give you xp before you can join all the people in ishgard, who could be your buddies who you wanna play with.

[Fendred]

Wait, why does it surprise anyone that someone wiped to Moogle Mog XII on their first few attempts? There is enough randomness in the fight that it can wipe veteran players due to a poorly placed moogle-go-round. Plus its not like raid mechanics are naturally intuitive in any sort of way. Try comparing fights in an MMORPG to something like the witcher, where you can learn about an enemy via the game's mechanics prior to fighting them. Walkthroughs on youtube might be part of the ecosystem, but they are not part of the game.

[GabrielK]

Indeed they NEED to think of a solution in the long term since story content will keep getting bigger and bigger and catching up to whatever the current expansion is, will take weeks if not more (for casual players).
I don't know of a solution, but "skipping" it makes no sense in the current context, the story of 3.0 onward makes little sense without knowing what happened in 2.0.

Maybe once an expansion is out, leveling a new character could have the option to do only certain quests, basically the relevant highlights of the older expansions and the rest of the MSQ fillers) could be presented as voiced slides in-between the key points. It may sound like a lot of work but it isn't really, not compared to the benefits of opening up the game to new players in later expansions.

The lazy (imo) and cheap approach would simply be to allow a player to skip every single quest (consider it made) up to the current expansion's first quest, unlock all cut-scenes and such, also unlock absolutely all dungeons automatically as you level up (including the side-ones, you can do the quests but they're not mandatory anymoe) from all older-than-current expansions.

There are ways, ways that would impact the older players very little.
New players that care for the story should be allowed to experience it however, if the choose to. Removing older content for "speeding up" reasons would be terrible.

[Ksenia]

The lazy (imo) and cheap approach would simply be to allow a player to skip every single quest (consider it made) up to the current expansion's first quest, unlock all cut-scenes and such, also unlock absolutely all dungeons automatically as you level up (including the side-ones, you can do the quests but they're not mandatory anymoe) from all older-than-current expansions.

In my case, they can leave the entire story line intact. I just want to be able to walk in to the damn zones, to gather at the new nodes. I have plenty of classes I can move the story forward on but the bulk of my game is spent on DoH and DoL. I am being forced to power through the MSQ to play those aspects. I don't want to but short of buying all mats on the market, that's how I am being forced to do it.

[m3eansean]

In my case, they can leave the entire story line intact. I just want to be able to walk in to the damn zones, to gather at the new nodes. I have plenty of classes I can move the story forward on but the bulk of my game is spent on DoH and DoL. I am being forced to power through the MSQ to play those aspects. I don't want to but short of buying all mats on the market, that's how I am being forced to do it.

You need flying to access the new nodes. It will be impossible for you to gather highest level items without having a battle class to 60. FYI.

[Ksenia]

You need flying to access the new nodes. It will be impossible for you to gather highest level items without having a battle class to 60. FYI.

In short, attune the zone. And when I am actually able to do that it will translate to a lot of running. Done with a level 59 most likely because zone discovery gave big chunks of Experience based on level. I deliberately avoided map discovery in 2.00 and took half the level from 49 to 50 Whm just walking in to areas.

I was at The Beasts Maw when I logged back in, the level 26. It was checked, just not turned in. I'd say I was holding it until I had a class that wasn't level capped I could turn it in on. That's no longer an issue. I'm handing out tea now and already 25% through Whm level 50. This was never about it being difficult. It would have been in the interest of SqEnix to not ram me through this. Had I done these quests on another class, it would have taken me substantially longer. I'll be in HeavenWard by the weekend. It just means I have to waste content they took years to implement. In the end, not my circus, not my monkeys I guess.

[Rin_Kuroi]

"I do believe SE should have put at least some effort in places such as Amazon to let potential players know. Just something like this line would be enough."

Did I have to draw a picture to show I meant on Amazon and such sites? I actually took your own quote from a few posts ago. Jesus.

Because that is the purchase site not the informational site. Its there so you can purchase the game. Its has just enough information to verify that you are purchasing the product you want. Its not there to help you figure out which product you want to purchase.

[Ortamus]

Because that is the purchase site not the informational site. Its there so you can purchase the game. Its has just enough information to verify that you are purchasing the product you want. Its not there to help you figure out which product you want to purchase.

As I said, not everyone will research it and SE will be aware of that fact. So, letting players know in places they can purchase it would be the decent thing to do. That's all.

[randysquirrel]

Yes there is a lot of ragequitting so get used to it.
Every piece of content has been nerfed and made faceroll, because people whined at anything that posed even the slightest challenge. So now everything should be able to be passed while watching Netflix, and if you still somehow fail, everyone will instantly leave the party