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  1. #111
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    SakuraMidori's Avatar
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    Sakura Kinakina
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zer0 View Post
    I enjoy the game, however it expects too much of a casual player. I don't want to raid and have no interest in it.
    Sadly raids end of being a lot of the end game stuff so idk what your going to do at that point but just try to have fun ^^
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  2. #112
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    Scrapper Grrl
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    Yojimbo
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    White Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Zer0 View Post
    I bought heavensward because I was stupid. I haven't even gotten a job unlock yet, I assumed that I'd get to try the new dark knight earlier. As I like drain tanks, however I didn't realize I won't even remotely get to play it till maybe next calendar year.

    I enjoy the game, however it expects too much of a casual player. I don't want to raid and have no interest in it.
    Exactly the same for me too. I was hoping to be able to get into Ishgard, take a look around and pick up the new jobs at least. I understood that most/all the new quests would be out of reach for me, but as long as I could just walk into the new place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    A warning like this is on the main informational page for ff14 hw. Sadly some people are foolish enough to rely on the info from seller's page instead of the developer's. Hopefully lesson learned.
    SE's main HW page actually states under the Early Access portion of the page (and the only spot btw that it is mentioned), "...have made sufficient progress in the main scenario." This is quite vague, and to me - as I'm sure to others as well - it meant, 'okay, I just need to beat that dragon infested dungeon in Coerthas and I'm in, right?" Should be, but no. I mean all the Ishgardians are cool with me after doing all those favors for them. Nope. Not happening. They are only going to roll out the red carpet after I have fully completed the MSQ up to 2.53 (incl. all high level raids required for that progress). So, it really should've said, "Warning: you need to have full completion of the main scenario to 2.53 to advance to Heavensward."
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  3. #113
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I started playing FFXI like 2 years after NA launch and I never felt in a threadmill trying to catch up to the veteran players back then. I eventually did. I guess it was the horizontal progression that allowed that. The pace was more calm. In FFXIV it's another story though... If I stopped playing for a few months I'd fall behind very fast. lol I mean look at Alex, within the first day there were the "Farm. Know the fight. Not a learning party" already, on party finder...
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  4. #114
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    how i see this :

    -) to much content : people complain coz they cant finish all of the stuff

    -) not enough content : people complain coz theres nothing to do
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  5. #115
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    Dacien Sanderon
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    Who said anything like that? I can enjoy new and old content. Obtuse much.
    But new players can't? You not seeing the double standard and thinking you somehow deserve more than a new player is part of why you don't comprehend what this thread is about.
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    Last edited by DacienSanderon; 07-16-2015 at 04:21 AM.

  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    The only other MMO I've played extensively works similarly. LOTRO's first expansion requires leveling through the base game first. Then each successive expansion starts at the endgame level of the previous one. (Though to allow for players getting some expansions and not others, there are between-expansion updates to the main game to provide alternate leveling paths.) But you can't start any of the expansions from the beginning of the game.
    Having played LOTRO this isn't true. Each successive expansion does not start at the endgame. It starts at the end level. That means you level to the old cap and start leveling in the expansion content without having to do the old raids etc. Just like nearly (I only say that because there might be an exception) every MMO out there.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rin_Kuroi View Post
    A warning like this is on the main informational page for ff14 hw. Sadly some people are foolish enough to rely on the info from seller's page instead of the developer's. Hopefully lesson learned.
    There is nothing like this on the main page. Heck, even when I click on the "buy now" I see nothing like it. I'm sure there is something vague buried somewhere in there but you're really grasping at straws if you think that's an adequate warning.
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  8. #118
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    Verdan Lankost
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    The only other MMO I've played extensively works similarly. LOTRO's first expansion requires leveling through the base game first. Then each successive expansion starts at the endgame level of the previous one. (Though to allow for players getting some expansions and not others, there are between-expansion updates to the main game to provide alternate leveling paths.) But you can't start any of the expansions from the beginning of the game.
    Dawg I was gathering scholar nodes in Rohan even when I didn't have that expansion;and the closest things to a hard story gate(Moria/Mirkwood) let you pick up the quests to get in even if you didn't finish any of the ones before them. If there's another game out there that requires you to go through months worth of story content to even get to the new expansion area, it's something I can't imagine many people know about.

    And keep in mind, this isn't just leveling up. It's going through the story quests that don't even give you xp before you can join all the people in ishgard, who could be your buddies who you wanna play with.
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  9. #119
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    I started playing FFXI like 2 years after NA launch and I never felt in a threadmill trying to catch up to the veteran players back then. I eventually did. I guess it was the horizontal progression that allowed that. The pace was more calm. In FFXIV it's another story though... If I stopped playing for a few months I'd fall behind very fast. lol I mean look at Alex, within the first day there were the "Farm. Know the fight. Not a learning party" already, on party finder...
    There are so much gated content in XI, what are you talking about...? Sea, Aht Urgan, any of the basic 75 content outside of maybe Dynamis and HNMs, ZNMs, Salvage, Odin. You guys seriously remember FFXI in a totally different way than I do.
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  10. #120
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by m3eansean View Post
    You need flying to access the new nodes. It will be impossible for you to gather highest level items without having a battle class to 60. FYI.
    In short, attune the zone. And when I am actually able to do that it will translate to a lot of running. Done with a level 59 most likely because zone discovery gave big chunks of Experience based on level. I deliberately avoided map discovery in 2.00 and took half the level from 49 to 50 Whm just walking in to areas.

    I was at The Beasts Maw when I logged back in, the level 26. It was checked, just not turned in. I'd say I was holding it until I had a class that wasn't level capped I could turn it in on. That's no longer an issue. I'm handing out tea now and already 25% through Whm level 50. This was never about it being difficult. It would have been in the interest of SqEnix to not ram me through this. Had I done these quests on another class, it would have taken me substantially longer. I'll be in HeavenWard by the weekend. It just means I have to waste content they took years to implement. In the end, not my circus, not my monkeys I guess.
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