being new and @ level 50 is killing my interest

[Ortamus]

A warning like this is on the main informational page for ff14 hw. Sadly some people are foolish enough to rely on the info from seller's page instead of the developer's. Hopefully lesson learned.

We' already talked about this...you suffer from short term memory loss? People see a game from a series they enjoy, they'll buy it. Now, go open up your door, there's this place called the outdoors. You might like it.

[Kyonika]

I bought heavensward because I was stupid. I haven't even gotten a job unlock yet, I assumed that I'd get to try the new dark knight earlier. As I like drain tanks, however I didn't realize I won't even remotely get to play it till maybe next calendar year.

I enjoy the game, however it expects too much of a casual player. I don't want to raid and have no interest in it.

Exactly the same for me too. I was hoping to be able to get into Ishgard, take a look around and pick up the new jobs at least. I understood that most/all the new quests would be out of reach for me, but as long as I could just walk into the new place.

A warning like this is on the main informational page for ff14 hw. Sadly some people are foolish enough to rely on the info from seller's page instead of the developer's. Hopefully lesson learned.

SE's main HW page actually states under the Early Access portion of the page (and the only spot btw that it is mentioned), "...have made sufficient progress in the main scenario." This is quite vague, and to me - as I'm sure to others as well - it meant, 'okay, I just need to beat that dragon infested dungeon in Coerthas and I'm in, right?" Should be, but no. I mean all the Ishgardians are cool with me after doing all those favors for them. Nope. Not happening. They are only going to roll out the red carpet after I have fully completed the MSQ up to 2.53 (incl. all high level raids required for that progress). So, it really should've said, "Warning: you need to have full completion of the main scenario to 2.53 to advance to Heavensward."

[LaurelinKementari]

They are only going to roll out the red carpet after I have fully completed the MSQ up to 2.53 (incl. all high level raids required for that progress).

This is a lie. Neither the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Crystal Tower or any of the Extreme Primals are required to finish the main scenario. Only a few 4-man dungeons (Qarn in 2.1, Snowcloak in 2.4 and Keeper of the Lake in 2.5, I believe) and each story-mode primal fight (Good King Moggle Mog XII, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva), as well as Steps of Faith. None of that is high level raid content.

[Kyonika]

This is a lie. Neither the Binding Coil of Bahamut, Crystal Tower or any of the Extreme Primals are required to finish the main scenario. Only a few 4-man dungeons (Qarn in 2.1, Snowcloak in 2.4 and Keeper of the Lake in 2.5, I believe) and each story-mode primal fight (Good King Moggle Mog XII, Leviathan, Ramuh, Shiva), as well as Steps of Faith. None of that is high level raid content.

Thank you for the correction. That's reassuring to know.

I was speaking from a point of ignorance, 'cuz I only know what others have said: "back in teh day, we had ta beat all deez dungoens, da HM n EX primals, deez raidz and stuffs and grind out tomes and zodiacs and weapoonz like we grindin' on da dance flo yo -- So you gotta too, and you gonna like it! ... An' den we gonna paaty like its yo birthday!" lol

Though, after completing my MNK and talking to my trainer's geek friend, I actually want to do Crystal Tower. I'm kinda looking forward to that - but after I get my healer/dps up to par. -- cuz my MNK apparently loves the AoE circles too much.

[DacienSanderon]

A warning like this is on the main informational page for ff14 hw. Sadly some people are foolish enough to rely on the info from seller's page instead of the developer's. Hopefully lesson learned.

There is nothing like this on the main page. Heck, even when I click on the "buy now" I see nothing like it. I'm sure there is something vague buried somewhere in there but you're really grasping at straws if you think that's an adequate warning.

[Rin_Kuroi]

There is nothing like this on the main page. Heck, even when I click on the "buy now" I see nothing like it. I'm sure there is something vague buried somewhere in there but you're really grasping at straws if you think that's an adequate warning.

As another player pointed out, the warning I was thinking of was in the early access section on the main page. That's a pretty poor place for it. I concede the point and apologize.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

I started playing FFXI like 2 years after NA launch and I never felt in a threadmill trying to catch up to the veteran players back then. I eventually did. I guess it was the horizontal progression that allowed that. The pace was more calm. In FFXIV it's another story though... If I stopped playing for a few months I'd fall behind very fast. lol I mean look at Alex, within the first day there were the "Farm. Know the fight. Not a learning party" already, on party finder...

[AkashiXI]

I started playing FFXI like 2 years after NA launch and I never felt in a threadmill trying to catch up to the veteran players back then. I eventually did. I guess it was the horizontal progression that allowed that. The pace was more calm. In FFXIV it's another story though... If I stopped playing for a few months I'd fall behind very fast. lol I mean look at Alex, within the first day there were the "Farm. Know the fight. Not a learning party" already, on party finder...

There are so much gated content in XI, what are you talking about...? Sea, Aht Urgan, any of the basic 75 content outside of maybe Dynamis and HNMs, ZNMs, Salvage, Odin. You guys seriously remember FFXI in a totally different way than I do.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

There are so much gated content in XI, what are you talking about...? Sea, Aht Urgan, any of the basic 75 content outside of maybe Dynamis and HNMs, ZNMs, Salvage, Odin. You guys seriously remember FFXI in a totally different way than I do.

Maybe we had different experiences.

Yes, there was all that gated content, but I always had friends to do it with. Linkshells were really helpful back then, too. I never had a problem finding a static for CoP, Sea, etc. I never felt in a rush to complete them because I knew we would eventually. Maybe also because it was super hard back then so it's not like the whole server was gonna complete it from the get go. lol Maybe that helped lessen the pressure? That and the static's commitment and passion to beat it. XD

[AkashiXI]

Maybe we had different experiences.

Yes, there was all that gated content, but I always had friends to do it with. Linkshells were really helpful back then, too. I never had a problem finding a static for CoP, Sea, etc. I never felt in a rush to complete them because I knew we would eventually. Maybe also because it was super hard back then so it's not like the whole server was gonna complete it from the get go. lol Maybe that helped lessen the pressure? That and the static's commitment and passion to beat it. XD

You can say the same about 14 though. You can under size any of the old content (we 3 manned all the necessary dungeons for High Level Roulette for a fresh 50 in under 2 hours), and considerate Free Companies will help you get current with the newest content. Also, there's no rush to do anything in 14, even if you think there is with weekly resets. I run a casual Free Company, and the majority of them are casuals. They're just now getting to Bismarck Extreme, collecting their 170s, and asking about Alexander. They're having fun too, so just like in XI... play at your own pace.