Dark Knight : Just another mitigation tank

[Altena]

OP is completely ignoring WAR v2.0. Which is exactly what he's asking for, and there's a very good reason it doesn't exist anymore.

A self-healing tank just does not work here. At all. It was tried, it failed.

I actually played WAR in 2.0. Tanking was hard, not because it took skill, but because you would die in anything serious before you could self-heal or the healer healed you, unless you were being SS/Adlo spammed. WAR is so much better than it was (even just counting only 2.x skills) its not funny.

Having a phat HP container with 1 self-healing skill that you can pop roughly every 15-20 secs is not a blood tank.

I also played WAR for coil 1-5 pre-2.1 and while it was a weaker alternative to PLD, our group still managed to clear.

[SarcasmMisser]

Having a phat HP container with 1 self-healing skill that you can pop roughly every 15-20 secs is not a blood tank.

I also played WAR for coil 1-5 pre-2.1 and while it was a weaker alternative to PLD, our group still managed to clear.

The Binds that Tie I
11/01/2014

Whoops. Completely ignoring that T5 had the only major tank busters and you were probably OT.

[Altena]

Whoops. Completely ignoring that T5 had the only major tank busters and you were probably OT.

Welllllll we actually solo tanked T5. So there goes that.
T1-4 was perfectly doable with a WAR.

[SarcasmMisser]

Welllllll we actually solo tanked T5. So there goes that.
T1-4 was perfectly doable with a WAR.

In 2.1? You just made a claim that you did 1-5 in 2.0 as a war and were caught flat out lying. 1-4 was doable because there were no tank busters, and 1-5 would be doable by virtue that the war was a OT and did little actual tanking. I took a war for 1-4 and it was doable but clearly a handicap. Yes you can solo tank T5 as a war once they implemented those fixes that ditched the idea of a life steal tank.

[Altena]

so much salt

Eh I couldn't remember if it was before or after, I knew it was close to the patch. Makes little difference. You are completely brushing over the fact that I have agreed countless times that they "tried" blood tanking with WAR, yes - but they didn't do it well. IB was literally its only significant lifesteal skill on a single target - and there was no overflow mechanic or anything that provided some buffer. If they were to simply increase your max HP proportionate to IB's overheal for a short duration, it would work fine against tank busters. The issue was that there just wasn't enough lifesteal to make it their primary source of tanking ability, and at the time Defiance didn't offer a passive healing buff.

Blood tanking can easily be done. WAR was just an extremely poor example of it.