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    Also, this game creates the ME ME ME attitude already because of how restrictive it is. This game is supposed to put you in the game world with others who have different playstyles, different likes, different experience with gaming, etc. But the game is not conducive to group play because it doesn't account for the fact that people are people. I didn't sign up for a "rail" MMO. I have no control over how story plays out, how i play the class i select, how I equip the class i select, how I customize the class I play.

    If they wanted to make a game so restrictive, they should have stuck to a single player RPG. I wanted variety, choice. Im paying 14.99/month and I can't do 1/4 of the stuff I can do in most other games without paying a sub, even single player games. I want people to stop making excuses for SE. This game is not where it shouldbe or could be and the way its going, its not going to get there before any other games pop up and overwhelm them. Oh, and ESO is optional sub, I can play for free, after buying game of course, and access their servers, get updates like other mmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QiLymePye View Post
    I didn't sign up for a "rail" MMO. I have no control over how story plays out, how i play the class i select, how I equip the class i select, how I customize the class I play. If they wanted to make a game so restrictive, they should have stuck to a single player RPG. I wanted variety, choice. Im paying 14.99/month and I can't do 1/4 of the stuff I can do in most other games without paying a sub, even single player games. I want people to stop making excuses for SE. This game is not where it shouldbe or could be and the way its going, its not going to get there before any other games pop up and overwhelm them. Oh, and ESO is optional sub, I can play for free, after buying game of course, and access their servers, get updates like other mmo.
    This is FINAL FANTASY lol, may want to do research about this franchise and its gameplay. The majority of leveling from 1-60 is mostly solo playing, exploration, with some online component where you have to complete certain dungeons to advance the main story missions. You can do dungeons over and over, or you can do it once for main story and use other means to level without interacting much with other players, if that fits your play style, you can do it.

    Past level 60, everything is endgame oriented, which means you MUST group with other player if you want the best in slot gears. Obviously you can just do crafting and gathering and never set a foot in any endgame dungeons if you want to do it, and use levequest, daily hunt marks, and FATE to level up other class as well.

    Group play in FF14 however is somewhat strict, you MUST know your role, and it is not "how I see fit". The gears are also the same way, it is far more simplified. At most you can mix and match accessories for certain class, but please don't come as healer with all INT caster accessories just because you want to do DPS only. Almost every end game dungeons, your role is pretty much determined, and you better play it to a T - or risking irritating your fellow players (I am looking at you dark knight who want to DPS only and never once use their defensive cooldowns, or those Scholar who thinks the Fairy can heal pretty much all end game activities while they play gimped Summoner version).

    If you look at end game, most of the strategy out there is used because it is considered optimal solution. However you do not have to follow this, and can freely experiment and alter to suit your static, since this could change depend on your static job composition. Duty Finder however mandate that you follow the most commonly known strategy, it is not exactly creative, but I rather deal with tried and true methods rather than wiping over and over and over, simply because a certain snow flake decide he/she will do it their way and screw the group and the mechanic.

    I do not have any wish to play ESO by the way, I don't like sandbox game. If I buy a game, I want to experience exactly what the creators have intended. FF14 is not perfect by any means, but so far, it is pretty good and well curated. The game design is FOCUSED, put you in a tight straight and narrow rail from start to finish (as well as giving players TONS of hand holding - assuming you can read). And this game has bazillion content, more so than ESO. The voice chat factor ruins that game for me, I rather not hearing other players (background) noises. It's simple really, if you don't like how things are, don't play the game. I am not trying to change ESO or FFXI or WoW, I just play the game that interest me. FF14 is that game for now.
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    Last edited by Luvbunny; 07-14-2015 at 06:37 PM.

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    Yes, but this is supposed to be an MMO. I'm not complaining about the game itself. I'm complaining about what its labeling itself as when its not. I don't need to research. I've played final fantasy since it was released on nintendo, when the only party members you had were Kane and Cecil, 2-man party.

    I've played not only this company's rpg's over the years, but countless others from other companies. I knew this company when it was just Square. i grew up with them. I also played others like Enix, before they merged with Squaresoft. I know my games. Based on my "real life research", this company helped pace the way for Jrpg's here in the US. Those rpg's were single player, not MMO. And their knowledge of Single Player jrpg shows in this game. I would have rather they made this a single players, which it already is. I had more customization in FFTactics than this game. This is 25 years of frustration. They can do better. I told people when I heard this game was coming out that it would be the best MMO. I'm starting to eat my words...
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    Also, what is a snowflake? lol. The reason people are playing outside of this "supposed" role is because, since this is supposed to be a casual game, they are not used to playing in a role. Like I said before, how are you gonna ask someone who plays 90% of the game solo to all of a sudden get used to playing in a role. There is no role when you solo.

    When outside of dungeons, how many tanks actually tank? How many healers focus more on healing than dps? Thats why you have people trying to dps when playing other "roles". The tank has been dpsing a majority of his playtime then BAM, he gets in a dungeon and all of a sudden skills he had no use for are all of a sudden required. What? The roles should have been determined based on play style and what was needed in that party. Not, "im playing a tank class which I DPS most of the game but Now I have to tank". lol that is bad game design. Thats like me teaching you english most of the school year but giving you test in spanish and telling you that you should "know your spanish"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    This is FINAL FANTASY lol, may want to do research about this franchise and its gameplay.
    It looks like you might want to research Final Fantasy "lol".

    Have you any clue what the elementals are? you know elemental strenghts weaknesses? What happens when you cast fire on a creature that is of the fire element, or for that matter what happens when you cast fire on a creature weak to it. just an example, i mean you did research Final Fantasy right?

    Final Fantasy XIV is and it isnt final fantasy based on its franchise. Its final fantasy in its title, the skin the game is presented in is Final Fantasy. And the story is done well as most Final Fantasy games are.

    But the game model, the content you find within the game is not based on the Final Fantasy franchise. Its based on modern mmo's ((MSO) massively single player online), the most popular one World of Warcraft. The game most companies based their modern mmo on, due to its huge success. Alot of subscribers doesnt mean the game was great just accessible and fun, for a while. Problem with the model is the content type in it is all the same repeated and reskined to be new.

    The issue what is the issue, if you like that then thats great. What is annoying is how you and your kind. Are so against different content types being added to the game, without taking away from you the stuff you enjoy. Just > adding <, but then there would be content you dont like and you would be up in arms.
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