So, why does the "light party to advance to the next stage of FC crafting" exist?

[Ditto]

And yet, that's EXACTLY what Personal Housing is. Personal Housing: "owning all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have."

I'm not sure why you are targeting the minority here (solo FC's) when it's Personal Housing that is wasting so many plots. Solo FC's put that same plot to far more use by default. Furthermore, when housing was released it was ONLY available to FC's (for 9 entire months.) If people wanted to own a house of their own (instead of an Inn room) they were forced to make a solo FC.


On topic: There is no limit to how many workshop materials you can hand in each day (despite what the workshop NPC says.) Collect ALL of the mats you need for every phase for multiple items. -Then- invite three people in Duty Finder; pay them for their time, and be on your way. I completed 15 Progress phases (5 different projects) in one fell swoop. It's easy - there are so many people that are Idle in Idylshire who would be happy to make 25-50k for AFK'ing in your house.

[Teryaani]

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And your point was? Near as I can tell you were slamming people in small FCs for having an FC house and using the resource argument as part of that.

[MageBlack]

Hmm, I think it is the people upset by this that are missing the point. How much you wanna bet SE has plans for more content in the future that requires a group and this was just to prepare players for what is to come?

I get the point of this thread is people feel there is no point to having this requirement. I think that was pretty clear.

[Teryaani]

Hmm, I think it is the people upset by this that are missing the point. How much you wanna bet SE has plans for more content in the future that requires a group and this was just to prepare players for what is to come?

If they do actual group content that isn't just having to have a party of people in a DoH class while one person does something, I would get that. This particular requirement was pointless. So hopefully if they do this in the future, they think it through more.

[RiceisNice]

If they do actual group content that isn't just having to have a party of people in a DoH class while one person does something, I would get that. This particular requirement was pointless. So hopefully if they do this in the future, they think it through more.

It seems pretty pointless in the context of the cutscene we're treated. Why do you need a light party to even press a button?

[Teryaani]

It seems pretty pointless in the context of the cutscene we're treated. Why do you need a light party to even press a button?

You don't. I completely agree. If they wanted to slow down the smaller/solo FCs, they should have just made it limited material turn in each day. The way they did it is just odd.

dat sig....

The point of it, is that it is a group project(Whether a good one or not), created for what was intended to be a thing for... you know... groups.

Going by their logic then there is also no point in keeping the new primals locked behind premade groups. Nor is there a reason to lock any dungeon or raid behind a premade group. Should all just be DF'able right off the bat.

Why cant I solo Dragonskin maps too? Those need a nerf.

Hell lets just make this a single player game. That's the only way people will be happy at this point.

<breaks out torch> <lights straw man on fire>

Not what I was saying at all. I have no problem with group content. As implemented, this was not group content. Unless you think it's great fun to sit there while other people do things is "group content". I know that doing maps, I'm actually involved with fighting the mob, not just standing around.

[MageBlack]

If they do actual group content that isn't just having to have a party of people in a DoH class while one person does something, I would get that. This particular requirement was pointless. So hopefully if they do this in the future, they think it through more.

This is the very first introduction to group crafting. I also hope they add more reasons for all members to actively participate and I am pretty sure they will. Its like every other new content they add in, they do it in stages. I just think its a little early to break out the torches over it. Just like people complaining about the difficulty of Alex Savage mode when its not even out yet...

[Teryaani]

This is the very first introduction to group crafting. I also hope they add more reasons for all members to actively participate and I am pretty sure they will. Its like every other new content they add in, they do it in stages. I just think its a little early to break out the torches over it. Just like people complaining about the difficulty of Alex Savage mode when its not even out yet...

I don't think we're at torches or pitchforks phase for this and I doubt we'll reach it. If something is less-than-ideal, we should say so though.