So, why does the "light party to advance to the next stage of FC crafting" exist?

[Zarzak]

Because its FC crafting, not solo crafting?

Seems pretty simple to me

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[Ditto]

It exsists cuz se doesn't expect 1 person to do all the work.

That^ and if you're in a solo FC with a big house, congrats, you own all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have. (And there is the fact that an FC cant be made by 1 person. If you bypassed the signature requirement by paying people for signatures, or getting FCless people to do it and then got rid of them, you shouldn't be complaining. It takes 4 people to form an FC, 4 people to form a light party)

Oh and on top of that you probably own a personal house too. Don't lie now.

This is like a small form of "Just desserts".

Lets petition to have the requirement raised from a light party to a full party!

Edit: inb4 the butt hurt single person FC owners show u- oh wait they're already here.

[Volsung]

I'm 100% ok with requiring a group for certain parts of the FC crafting station.

I do, however, wish it had been more than just a cutscene, even if it had been
some button prompt pushes for an extra chance at better progress.

[MageBlack]

This is just the preliminary introduction to this content. You can bet your sweet butt-cheeks that there will be a lot more of this kind of requirement. If this is a problem and you only need them for a few min and thats a problem for you, then I doubt you will be able to handle the future content. Just a thought.

[Galactimus]

If you're in a solo FC with a big house, congrats, you own all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have.

And yet, that's EXACTLY what Personal Housing is. Personal Housing: "owning all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have."

I'm not sure why you are targeting the minority here (solo FC's) when it's Personal Housing that is wasting so many plots. Solo FC's put that same plot to far more use by default. Furthermore, when housing was released it was ONLY available to FC's (for 9 entire months.) If people wanted to own a house of their own (instead of an Inn room) they were forced to make a solo FC.


On topic: There is no limit to how many workshop materials you can hand in each day (despite what the workshop NPC says.) Collect ALL of the mats you need for every phase for multiple items. -Then- invite three people in Party Finder; pay them for their time, and be on your way. I completed 15 Progress phases (5 different projects) in one fell swoop. It's easy - there are so many people that are Idle in Idyllshire who would be happy to make 25-50k for AFK'ing in your house instead.

[Teryaani]

That^ and if you're in a solo FC with a big house, congrats, you own all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have. (And there is the fact that an FC cant be made by 1 person. If you bypassed the signature requirement by paying people for signatures, or getting FCless people to do it and then got rid of them, you shouldn't be complaining. It takes 4 people to form an FC, 4 people to form a light party)

Or you had friends with alts sign and then drop. Nothing scandalous about it.

Oh and on top of that you probably own a personal house too. Don't lie now.

I don't remember seeing anyone claiming they didn't.

This is like a small form of "Just desserts".

Lets petition to have the requirement raised from a light party to a full party!

Right. So players who had no control over FC affairs in a large FC - which is the norm for most players but who wanted access to gardening and chocobo things before personal housing came out formed a pocket sized FC and bought a house. Something SE let them do. Something which the terrible implementation of housing allowed. You're making it sound like this is somehow cheating. Got a problem with those of us with a small FC (my situation)? Blame Square. They created the environment that encouraged it.

I still hold to the belief that part of this nonsense is their hope that we'll give up the small FC and go to a large one....where we'll have no control over company housing again. Oh wait, no we won't.

And yet, that's EXACTLY what Personal Housing is. Personal Housing: "owning all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have."

I'm not sure why you are targeting the minority here (solo FC's) when it's Personal Housing that is wasting so many plots. Solo FC's put that same plot to far more use by default. Furthermore, when housing was released it was ONLY available to FC's (for 9 entire months.) If people wanted to own a house of their own (instead of an Inn room) they were forced to make a solo FC.

Exactly this. Had they taken the time to do instanced personal housing rather than feeling that a rush job was okay, we wouldn't be here.

On topic: There is no limit to how many workshop materials you can hand in each day (despite what the workshop NPC says.) Collect ALL of the mats you need for every phase for multiple items. -Then- invite three people in Duty Finder; pay them for their time, and be on your way. I completed 15 Progress phases (5 different items) in one fell swoop. It's easy.

Yup. This weekend we're going to get our airship built. Getting to level cap took a higher priority for us and we were trudging slowly at that.

[Ditto]

And yet, that's EXACTLY what Personal Housing is. Personal Housing: "owning all of that space only for yourself, and probably do nothing with any of it but make it look pretty for no one but you to see, meaning that is 1 less house for actual group FC's out there to have."

I'm not sure why you are targeting the minority here (solo FC's) when it's Personal Housing that is wasting so many plots. Solo FC's put that same plot to far more use by default. Furthermore, when housing was released it was ONLY available to FC's (for 9 entire months.) If people wanted to own a house of their own (instead of an Inn room) they were forced to make a solo FC.


On topic: There is no limit to how many workshop materials you can hand in each day (despite what the workshop NPC says.) Collect ALL of the mats you need for every phase for multiple items. -Then- invite three people in Duty Finder; pay them for their time, and be on your way. I completed 15 Progress phases (5 different projects) in one fell swoop. It's easy - there are so many people that are Idle in Idylshire who would be happy to make 25-50k for AFK'ing in your house.

[Teryaani]

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And your point was? Near as I can tell you were slamming people in small FCs for having an FC house and using the resource argument as part of that.

[MageBlack]

Hmm, I think it is the people upset by this that are missing the point. How much you wanna bet SE has plans for more content in the future that requires a group and this was just to prepare players for what is to come?

I get the point of this thread is people feel there is no point to having this requirement. I think that was pretty clear.

[Teryaani]

Hmm, I think it is the people upset by this that are missing the point. How much you wanna bet SE has plans for more content in the future that requires a group and this was just to prepare players for what is to come?

If they do actual group content that isn't just having to have a party of people in a DoH class while one person does something, I would get that. This particular requirement was pointless. So hopefully if they do this in the future, they think it through more.