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  1. #41
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    sharazisspecial's Avatar
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    The biggest flaw of this ability design is that it requires you to resummon your pet. Perhaps it would be more usable if it didn't. It definately needs a rework.

    Like someone said maybe it should silence your pet and then bump up the buff to 30%.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 07-11-2015 at 09:03 AM.

  2. #42
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    Astrid Merle
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    The biggest flaw of this ability design is that it requires you to resummon your pet. Perhaps it would be more usable if it didn't. It definately needs a rework.

    Like someone said maybe it should silence your pet and then bump up the buff to 30%.
    Dissipation's problem is the fact it's not even a fair trade for using it atm. Gimping my HPS, utility, ability to multi-task heals for 30 seconds just for 3 aetherflow stacks, and have to resummon the fairy myself is a deal borne of inconceivable desperation. If it was ~50% extra healing done by physic and adloquium for the duration to offset the loss of the fairy's HPS (each embrace every 3 seconds is ~50% of physic's potency), and the aetherflow stacks being reimbursement for lost utility, and ability to multitask heals from the fairy for 30 seconds, it would be worthy of using.

    The goal isn't to make it a pure healing steroid, but instead, a change in healing style for a brief period by converting the fairy's healing, and utility into the SCH's bonus healing, and aetherflow stacks respectively. That would actually feel cool, and add some depth.

    The fairy should either be silenced, or auto-resummoned instantly with no cost in MP at the end of the duration. The latter can even be made thematic, like temporary fusion with the fairy, or a fairy-based dreadwyrm trance.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 07-11-2015 at 07:45 PM.

  3. #43
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Though out of character, the ability would have been more useful if it increased SCH DPS during times that healing isn't neccessary. As it stands now, it is pretty useless because, as stated, there isn't an even trade off by sacrificing a fairy. I wonder what the devs intended on the usage when they created the ability.
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  4. #44
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Just wait for alexander savage, once nobody uses this ability there (including first clears and the like) I'm sure they will consider tunning it.

    I too think it's completely useless at the moment xD.
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  5. #45
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I've been thinking about this for a while. Without the ability to click off the buff / debuff so you can re-summon your fairy and the fact that healing potency does not affect abilities, this particular "buff" is beyond lackluster. Yes, if grants 3 stacks and boosted healing, but the loss of the fairy is too great of a price for a 30 second buff that basically weakens your overall healing and gives you 1800 potency cures in Lustrates. So, here are my suggestions for it. These suggestions are meant to be taken independently from each other though some can be combined for greater effect if deemed proper and balanced.

    Reduce Dissipation's buff time to 10 seconds
    The idea being that Dissipation is there as a "o snap" mechanism and if you hadn't fixed the party up in 10 seconds, chances are there's no way you'll be able to fix it. This also adds an element of risk and reward. Three Aetherflow stacks + 20% healing potency to try to mend the crap outta everyone at the risk of spending 2k+ MP + Swiftcast to get my fairy back afterwards. This also minimizes the amount of time a Scholar is locked out from using his/her fairy and get back to "normal healing" capacity. Let's be blunt, if you're in such dire need of healing and you can't fix it within ten seconds, chances are there will be no way to actually recover.

    Have Dissipation affect Ability-type Heals
    Getting Aetherflow charges back is all fine and dandy, but it sounds so counter intuitive to get Aetherflow stacks back when the 20% healing bonus does nothing for them. If you make Dissipation specifically affect both Scholar spells and abilities, this will at least make those Aetherflow stacks much more appealing.

    Have Dissipation Refresh Specific Cooldowns
    Cooldowns like Indomitably, Sacred Soil, Emergency Tactics, and Deployment Tactics all come to mind for this. The idea being "give the SCH the tools to patch everyone up quickly" or "prepare for the next onslaught" at the cost of locking out some of their healing potential in the process. You could reduce this to just Aetherflow abilities so that it may be possible to Indomitably >>>> Dissipation >>>> Indomitably for some potent one time healing and then have Sacred Soil on top for more mitigation.

    Have Dissipation effect both Healing and Attack Magic Potency
    Another risk-reward style adjustment. Make the SCH a higher damage dealer for X amount of time at the lose of their healing partner, thus temporarily shifting the focus from defense to offense. You know what they say, sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
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  6. #46
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Summoner Lv 100
    In Alexander, this very skill saved raids quite often although it's true that's only because there were enough mess-ups to begin with. I still think that the punishment for using it is a bit too harsh. I could live with it perfectly if the opposite fairy appears at the end of the effect. But calling it one of the most powerful nymian magicks when divine seal is better in every way. ... no wonder the nymians failed haha
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  7. #47
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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Midgardsormr
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    WHAT IF...
    your fairy's hp is dangerously low? if its gonna die anyway (meaning you'll just have to re-summon it again) why not use it then? I know, I know, its pretty situational, but the fairy's gonna die anyway, you might as well get something positive out if it.

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    fairy is about to die--> dissipate-->energy drain to get your mp back up-->summon.
    you're not really losing anything if it's "already dead"
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    Last edited by nexas506; 07-13-2015 at 10:05 PM.

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    Akio Shikimazu
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    Quote Originally Posted by nexas506 View Post
    WHAT IF...
    your fairy's hp is dangerously low? if its gonna die anyway (meaning you'll just have to re-summon it again) why not use it then? I know, I know, its pretty situational, but the fairy's gonna die anyway, you might as well get something positive out if it.
    I actually did that in A2 where she somehow got cleaved. Blew my aetherflow stacks quickly and hit dissipation. STILL very niche and very punishing. Plus, it's not like you couldn't heal her, I mean she can even heal herself for free...
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  9. #49
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by nexas506 View Post
    WHAT IF...
    your fairy's hp is dangerously low? if its gonna die anyway (meaning you'll just have to re-summon it again) why not use it then? I know, I know, its pretty situational, but the fairy's gonna die anyway, you might as well get something positive out if it.

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    fairy is about to die--> dissipate-->energy drain to get your mp back up-->summon.
    you're not really losing anything if it's "already dead"
    Frankly I'd rather just Swiftcast->Summon her than Dissipate for 3 Aetherflow stacks (at least two of which must be spent on ED without missing in order to recoup the resummoning cost) and wait the full 30 seconds for the buff to drop off.
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  10. #50
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    Sora Kysuke
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Or... Use sustain when you see your fairy taking damage and blowing her heals on herself works.

    I have no sympathy for SCH other SMN who refuse to use sustain. Shiva EX re-educated me about the use of that ability.
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